[Mageia-artwork] Meeting tonight
dmorganec at gmail.com
Wed Jun 29 15:20:26 CEST 2011
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Thorsten van Lil <tvl83 at gmx.de> wrote:
> Am 29.06.2011 14:43, schrieb Max Quarterpleen:
>> On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Dexter Morgan <dmorganec at gmail.com
>> <mailto:dmorganec at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Luc Menut <lmenut at free.fr
>> <mailto:lmenut at free.fr>> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> > Le 29/06/2011 08:42, Thorsten van Lil a écrit :
>> >> Dear team-mates,
>> >> we will hold a short meeting today:
>> >> Topics are:
>> >> * Window decoration
>> > Mainly as a Mageia's user, and also as a packager, I would make
>> some remarks
>> > about window decoration for next Mageia release.
>> > We had several bugs in the past (at start of ia_ora in Mdv) with
>> our own
>> > window decoration.
>> > Maintaining a good window decoration is lot of work, and I'm not
>> sure we
>> > have enough manpower to do so (or that it's the best use of our
>> > manpower!!).
>> > I would prefer if we use the upstream window decoration (and
>> widget style)
>> > of desktop environments (even if we have some differences between
>> DE), and
>> > we take time to polish the integration of most of graphics
>> > (qt4, gtk2, and now gtk3 apps) in each DE.
>> > my 2 cents :-)
>> we need coherency between the desktops so we need the same default
>> theme for gtk and kde apps.
>> This is why i propose this :
>> KDE => Oxygen
>> GTK 3 => Oxygen-gtk3
>> GTK 2 => Oxygen-gtk
>> We can't use ia ora anymore for mageia 2 because we would need to
>> recode all the theme for gtk3 so better leave it in peace and use a
>> new one.
>> As a gnome packager i started to package oxygen-gtk3 and i will work
>> to have it usuable in our gnome 3.
>> My 2 cents: I've never like ia-ora, and if I recall a discussion on the
>> forum, neither do many other people.
>> For that reason alone I think it would be expedient to switch the
>> default scheme to Oxygen.
>> But of course there are other, better reasons :P
> Yeah, I doesn't like ia-ora either. And I'm with Dexter. We need coherency.
> So to sums things up, we need a window-decoration, which is available for
> kde(and qt), gtk2, and gtk3, or an engine which allows to use a kde theme in
> gtk (or vice versa). So one of us, should collect the available decorations
> which fits these requirements.
> Mandriva has a new theme in KDE, which looks very similar to the new GNOME3
> decoration. So there should be probably some solutions, without to much work
> for us.
oxygen is the best because it answer to all you pre requires:
1- Oxygen is in heavy development so bugs will be fixed easily
2- Oxygen-gtk and oxygen-gtk3 are done by the same devs as oxygen for
kde ( so point 1 is also valid )
3- Oxygen use all kde functionnalities ( like tab grouping, ... )
I think we should adopt oxygen for mageia2 ( and after ) and more
focus about colour palettes
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