[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

Luca Berra bluca at vodka.it
Sat Oct 16 23:28:32 CEST 2010

On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 10:41:31AM -0500, Fernando Parra wrote:
>On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 08:56:06 +0200
>Luca Berra <bluca-1WC7Or56Oao at public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 10:00:14PM -0500, Fernando Parra wrote:
>> >The basic/novice user doesn't read anything,
>> remove basic/novice from the sentence and i will agree ;)
>Are you agree with some like that?
>Only the geek/expert/professional users read?
I think most people don't read, sometime even geek/expert/professional
don't. This is probably due to an overload of information, and trying to
create messages that are actually 'seen' by users is becoming a new
branch of science.

>> > doesn't request anything to some like a bugzilla,
>> but give him a forum and he probably will
>Here I'm not completely sure, How many forums, blogs, etc. about software are there (including Windows, Mac and others)? and How many users they have? At present time the number of pc's in the entire world are estimated in 1,500 millions, the number of users can be estimated without force the numbers as a twice of this number. Worst, we are in the Wikipedia age; in example, when I request an investigation to my students, about any theme. I need strictly keep out Wikipedia (Oh well, yes Encarta too) as a valid source.

Then it is difficult to do what user want, if we don't get any feedback.

>> Seriuosly speaking, i'd like to make a distinguo:
>> The real basic(*) user just uses a computer to get her work done, he
>> does not give a damn about a new version of firefox, kde or wathever, as
>> long as the version she is using is functioning.
>Are you sure? I'll try to explain me with a practical example: I really don't remember what of the versions of the Open Office 3.x branch open the road to read and write the MS Office 2007 (docx, etc) but when its happen, it was "the great success" How many users really need this particular "goodie", I think a big share of them!

well i had in mind a real life example when i wrote the above
>> we should not mix the needs of this two categories, neither would like
>> it.
>Ok, I call these users "intermediate users" and here in Mexico we have an idiomatic expression for these situations: "El qué quiera azul celeste, ¡que le cueste!" A poor translation of that is: If someone want something special, pays for get it!
the above stands, these categories have different needs and whishes.

>> btw, we also have users interested in backports of stuff like openldap,
>> samba or such, these users will actually contribute to the technical
>> making of the distro, either by using bugzilla when they find bugs or
>> actually doing packaging work. Ignoring the will of such users will,
>> sooner or later, force mageia to employ paid personnel to do packaging
>> work.
>I disagree here, a big share of the users are sick (including me) of an illness called "versionitis gravis". Good I'm sick!:) As I can see there are two variants of the illness:
I just meant that many people working on packaging are also using the
distro for running servers, so we are interested in server stuff, which
the average user wont' prolly give a sh@@@ about.


Luca Berra -- bluca at vodka.it

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