[Mageia-dev] Drakxnet, drakroam and Draknetcenter : let's fix it or throw it.
marcello.anni at alice.it
Tue Aug 2 17:21:09 CEST 2011
> You are right in several points, but... :-)
> Le 01/08/2011 15:59, Thierry Vignaud a écrit :
> > On 1 August 2011 15:29, Thomas Lottmann<skipercooker at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> The other main issue I see si that Drakxnet is coded in Perl and uses a
> >> of perl scripts, like the drakxtools. This makes it hard to maintain, and
> >> improve.
> > That's just your own POV.
> > Not the POV of maintainers.
> Are there other maintainers for this tool than it's creators or
> long-time maintainers? This is not only my POV, but also what I have
> heard from a variety of people since the time I participate a little.
> >> I know it works fine for several people. Personally, I am often having
> >> issues because it's disconnects on it's own,
> > This has nothing to do with drakconnect that don't handle that.
> > If the network disconnected, that's the issue between the routers,
> > the network, the kernel, ....
> > and no longer sees any networks when it should.
> > which points to either network issue or kernel driver issue, not
> Other people not using Mageia do not get as often disconnected as me
> when using public hotspots. Mageia wireless tools seem to have more
> difficulty to connect and keep the connections to hotspots that have a
> low (not bad, low) quality signal, while Windows keeps connected, or,
> quickly reconnects automatically.
> Meanwhile, I have to reconnect manually and, more frustrating, it seems
> the wireless utility sometime attempts to reconnect automatically, but I
> can't clearly know.
> The other bizarre thing I often see is when the hotspots he sees fall
> from 35 to 0 (or 1, the hotspot he's tryign to connect). This is not
> normal, I have not observed this NM, Windows or Mac OS X tools.
> >> Then it has difficulty reconnecting.
> > Same, reconnecting is the job of dhcp-client, ifplugd and the like.
> > Not drakconnect's job.
> I can't tell. I can only observe and I do not invent what I describe
> (and have already described in the past). :-)
> >> Windows, Fedora and Ubuntu's wireless tools work absolutely smoothly at
> >> school. And now, other people testing Mageia as school are having the
> >> issues I have. This is frustrating and I can assure you these home-made
> >> network tools have to be improved and fixed.
> > Well, Fedora tool (really NM) has its own bugs.
> > And I'm pretty sure people who've used MS, Apple or whatever OS/tool
> > they're used to, have also encountered issues
> True. But these issues are less evident to find apparently, and do not
> affect that much user experience.
> When a user wants to connect to a wireless hotspot, he should just click
> connect, enter his IDs and it should work fluently. If it is often the
> case with Mageia tools with a personal hotspot and when you're next to
> it, it is not always the case when you use it everyday, and, sadly,
> other tools do better and have a more stable and smooth wireless
> connectivity, even if they also encournter issues. Their issues are not
> that much affecting user experience like the ones I have described.
> >> If you want to, I can attempt to make a list of the isses and
> >> I find, although they are not hard to see.
> > Indeed, please just fill in _several_ bugs (one report per issue)
> > against drakx-net
> I will do one report for each issue I find in drakxnet, with as much
> details as possible, yes. I shall also do a video capture of the issue
> if it can help. this will take me a lot of time, but I will do it.
> >> But as I mentionned earlier, this
> >> is a tool that is hard to maintain, and I cannot learn perl right now.
> > That's just _your_ personnal though, not his maintainer's.
> > aka "this is a tool that is hard to maintain" really means "you would not
> > able to maintain it"
> >> If NetworkManager is easier to maintain and works fine, then I think it
> >> be a better solution. Just offering or trying to find solutions, because
> >> this tool seriously does not work properly here.
> > it has its own flaws too...
> Yes, but it does not confuses itself with it's own configuration files.
> Clearly, all programs can have flaws, but sincerely, it is not working
> well in Mageia and is not pleasant to use. Otherwise I would not report
> again about it. ;-)
btw, i think ALL mageia tools must be redesigned to match the medium usability
level of nowadays...
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