[Mageia-dev] Updates and 0 release

Samuel Verschelde stormi at laposte.net
Wed Jul 27 12:52:04 CEST 2011


Le mardi 26 juillet 2011 19:38:30, Samuel Verschelde a écrit :
> Le mardi 26 juillet 2011 18:42:05, Michael Scherer a écrit :
> [snip]
> 
> > Yet, the problem would also be there for regular non-version upgrade
> > ( ie, if we have foo-2-2.mga2 in cauldron and stable, and that we need
> > to rebuild on stable and not on cauldron, we face the same problem ), so
> > using 0 is a incomplete solution to the issue, and the only solution is
> > to rebuild in cauldron, and such problem should better be detected by
> > youri.
> 
> Very good point, this is a decisive argument to me.
> 
> > So, the conclusion is that we should test ugprade rather than assuming
> > that it will just work because we placed a 0 instead of a 1 somewhere.
> 
> Ok for me provided we put in place the necessary processes to avoid upgrade
> problems (Youri::Submit::Test::Precedence for example).
> 
> > Now, using 0 prevent us from having a simple way of seeing what
> > prerelease we ship and that should be updated to latest stable ( as this
> > seems to me quite desirable ).
> 
> Good point too.
> 
> > This is also inconsistent with the practice we had of backporting from
> > cooker ( as the initial goal at Mandriva was to have 0 modifications
> > from cooker to backports to reduce the load ). And if we ship something
> > in update and in backports, we would have the same packages with 2
> > different releases, and that doesn't seems a good idea.
> 
> Worse, the backport would be preferred to the update :/
> 
> You should have said all this right from the start rather than assuming
> that we would have all these elements in mind :)
> 
> Samuel

I suggest we add this point to tonight's meeting topics and that a decision be 
taken then.

Then we would adapt the updates policy and the current packages in 
updates_testing if the 0 release in updates is abandoned. We must also decide 
if we continue to use subrels or not (using them could avoid unneeded rebuilds 
in cauldron when there are packaging bugs in updates).

Best regards

Samuel


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