[Mageia-dev] mentors + apprentices

Marco Benatto marco.antonio.780 at gmail.com
Wed Nov 2 15:50:37 CET 2011


Hi,

I want to join the team, actually I already made contact by IRC channel.
But I'm still looking for a mentor.
I've never had experience as a packager just had in a little free software
projects.
My mageia identity is: mbenattoa. If somebody wants help me on mentoring
process I'll be very glad!

Thanks.

On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 9:00 AM, <mageia-dev-request at mageia.org> wrote:

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>   1. Re: [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release
>      perl-SOAP-Lite-0.714.0-1.mga2 (D.Morgan)
>   2. Re: Please test: initscripts+systemd in updates_testing
>      (Johnny A. Solbu)
>   3. Re: Please test: initscripts+systemd in updates_testing (andre999)
>   4.  mentors + apprentices (andre999)
>   5. i18n corrections in drak tools (Oliver Burger)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 01:40:07 +0100
> From: "D.Morgan" <dmorganec at gmail.com>
> To: Mageia development mailing-list <mageia-dev at mageia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release
>        perl-SOAP-Lite-0.714.0-1.mga2
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> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 9:02 AM, Thierry Vignaud
> <thierry.vignaud at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 27 October 2011 17:11, Mageia Team <buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org>
> wrote:
> >> takashi <takashi> 0.714.0-1.mga2:
> >> + Revision: 158214
> >> - update to 0.714
> >
> > A requested package cannot be installed:
> > perl-SOAP-Lite-0.714.0-1.mga2.noarch (due to unsatisfied
> > perl(SOAP::Transport::FTP)[>= 0.712.0])
> > Continue installation anyway? (Y/n)
> >
>
> still broken.
>
> The main issue is that i don't see  perl(SOAP::Transport::FTP)[>=
> 0.712.0]) see : http://search.cpan.org/dist/SOAP-Transport-FTP/
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 03:49:02 +0100
> From: "Johnny A. Solbu" <cooker at solbu.net>
> To: mageia-dev at mageia.org
> Subject: Re: [Mageia-dev] Please test: initscripts+systemd in
>        updates_testing
> Message-ID: <201111020349.05223.cooker at solbu.net>
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> On Wednesday 02 November 2011 01:05, andre999 wrote:
> > No offense intended
>
> None detected. ;-)=
>
> > but you don't see a slight advantage of not having
> > to mount a separate partition, and of sharing the space available on the
> > otherwise 2 separate partitions, particularly if the disk space is
> > somewhat limited ?
>
> If the diskspace is limited, there often is no available space to host a
> separate /usr.
> The old drive in my gateway was a 4G drive. There was One partition. ;-)=
> I do see the need to have all in one partition in many cases.
>
> But there is a diffenrece in having a need and require it. :-)=
>
> > Since you have read the reference, you didn't notice that the option of
> > separate partitions is _not_ precluded ?
>
> Some of the answers I got here suggested otherwize. if /usr needs to be
> mounted in order for the system to boot normally. Then have systemd mount
> it.
> I do see that there might be some problems involved in solving it.
>
> > However if one has / and /usr on the same partition, combining /bin,
> > /sbin, /usr/bin and /usr/sbin would certainly be a lot simpler than it
> > is now.
>
> Yes. I see that, and I see that it can be agood idea to merge /*bin with
> /usr/*bin
>
> > I never could understand why the complication of separate /bin and /sbin,
>
> I still feel that the daemon's executeable's belongs in sbin rather than
> bin.
>
> > and never appreciated the gymnastics of different commands with
> > the same name to handle root/non-root permissions for certain commands.
>
> I haven't noticed that. do you have an example?
>
> > To me, avoiding unnecessary complication by design is a big plus.
>
> Agreed. But don't throw the baby out with the water. ;-)=
>
> --
> Johnny A. Solbu
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 02:47:21 -0400
> From: andre999 <andre999mga at laposte.net>
> To: Mageia development mailing-list <mageia-dev at mageia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Mageia-dev] Please test: initscripts+systemd in
>        updates_testing
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> Johnny A. Solbu a ?crit :
> > On Wednesday 02 November 2011 01:05, andre999 wrote:
> >
> [...]
> >> Since you have read the reference, you didn't notice that the option of
> >> separate partitions is _not_ precluded ?
> >>
> > Some of the answers I got here suggested otherwize. if /usr needs to be
> mounted in order for the system to boot normally. Then have systemd mount
> it.
> > I do see that there might be some problems involved in solving it.
> >
>
> I think it is better to mount any separate /usr as early in the boot
> process as possible.
>
> [...]
> >> and never appreciated the gymnastics of different commands with
> >> the same name to handle root/non-root permissions for certain commands.
> >>
> > I haven't noticed that. do you have an example?
> >
>
> See the attached file of duplications of names on my computer.
> There are 76 duplications in the 4 directories.
> Those ending in @ are symbolic links.  Such duplications will disappear
> with the merging.
> The others are mostly (if not all) scripts which link to a routine which
> asks for the root password for certain commands, according to enabled
> permissions.  If the permissions are enabled and the password correctly
> entered, the user is rerouted to the initial command.  A less obscure
> way of dealing with it would be better.
> (I forget the details, but someone like tv or misc would know.)
>
> >> To me, avoiding unnecessary complication by design is a big plus.
> >>
> > Agreed. But don't throw the baby out with the water. ;-)=
> >
>
> If just changing initramfs to load any separate /usr partition will fix
> it, I don't see that we are losing anything.
> Although if someone like tmb can initially misunderstand the impact, I
> guess anyone can.  (It took me a while.)
>
> Maybe it will be more trouble to make such an initramfs, but once it is
> made, it should work nicely.  Without a special reason to have a
> separate /usr, I would say that it is better to avoid it.
> I see that ensuring that everything necessary to fully boot being
> guaranteed to be available very early in the boot process is a big plus.
> If /home isn't available, one can always login to root.  As well,
> keeping /home on a separate partition has advantages for ensuring the
> persistance of personal data and configuration in the event of
> reformatting /.
>
> --
> Andr?
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> Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 03:54:38 -0400
> From: andre999 <andre999mga at laposte.net>
> To: Mageia development mailing-list <mageia-dev at mageia.org>
> Subject: [Mageia-dev]  mentors + apprentices
> Message-ID: <4EB0F73E.9060108 at laposte.net>
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> Hi everyone,
>
> We have a new packager, takashi, who has successfully mentored with
> jquelin.
>
> We now have 2 apprentice candidates with .rpm packaging experience,
> waiting for
> a mentor.
>
> mcb30 (Michael Brown), who I introduced last week,
> is a longtime Mandrake/Mandriva and now Mageia user who has maintained
> several
> private RPM repos, and while waiting for a mentor has been making spec
> files
> for some python applications.
>
> We also have
> neocrust (Alexander Scherbakov),
> who has experience maintaining packages for openSuse and Lunar Linux, as
> well
> as translating to Russion, and doing documentation with the Gentoo Russion
> team.
>
> You can find more details at:
>
> http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packages_mentoring#packager_apprentice_candidates
>
> Mentors, let me know who you take on, and I'll update the tables for you.
>
> Thanks :-)
>
> ----
>
> We now have 49 active packagers (maintaining at least one package), with
> several who have yet to take a package.
> We currently have about 40 apprentices.
> Over 75% of packages have a maintainer.
>
> ----
>
> Anyone else looking for a mentor, let me know so I can add your name as an
> apprentice candidate -- or you can do it yourself.
>
> http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packages_mentoring#packager_apprentice_candidates
>
>
> See also the section just above, on becoming a Mageia packager :
>
> http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packages_mentoring#becoming_a_mageia_packager
>
> To find a mentor, you can also post to this list, or on IRC at freenode
> #mageia-mentoring.
>
> Regards :-)
>
> --
> Andr?
> (Packager mentoring program coordinator)
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 09:45:10 +0100
> From: Oliver Burger <oliver.bgr at googlemail.com>
> To: mageia-dev at mageia.org
> Subject: [Mageia-dev] i18n corrections in drak tools
> Message-ID: <201111020945.10325.oliver.bgr at googlemail.com>
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>
> Hi there,
>
> I'd like to get all corrections made by i18n teams since the Mga1 release
> into
> the distribution. Imho that is important because not all teams managed to
> finish their translation work for the Mga1 freeze, and we were told at that
> time, that we would be able to get our work into Mga1 via an update later
> on
> and thus I told the teams to set a priority on the translation of the
> installer po files, which couldn't be updated later.
>
>
> As I mentioned in https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1784 I would
> propose
> a "i18n bug hunting day". We could do a blog post calling people to
> actively
> look for translation errors and file bug reports about them. I18n teams
> could
> then fix as many of those as possible and commit the corrections to the "1"
> branch of the drak tools svn (and also to cauldron if they are still
> present
> there).
>
> What do you think?
> Let's say "i18n bug hunting day" somewhen in the middle of next week and an
> update of the drak tools for Mga1 arround december 1st?
>
> Oliver
>
>
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Marco Antonio Benatto
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