[Mageia-dev] Blogdrake repository for Mageia

andre999 andre999mga at laposte.net
Mon Oct 17 04:19:44 CEST 2011

Philippe DIDIER a écrit :
> Philippe DIDIER a écrit :
>> Joaquin Mandriva a écrit :
>>> Hello!
>>> My name is Joaquin, belonging to http://blogdrake.net
>>> <http://blogdrake.net/>  team. I am
>>> writing to you because I would like to let you know that we have
>>> created a repository with a big amount of good programs for Mageia.
>>> Our final target is to upload all of them to the official Mageia's
>>> repositories.
>>> We are currently uploading all these packages to the Mageia's BS step
>>> by step, because there are few people of us to do so. Also, also we
>>> don't have too much time because we also take care of Blogdrake,
>>> Mageia's news and the translations English to Spanish.
>>> Meanwhile, you can use and enjoy our repository in this way:
>>> urpmi.addmedia --wget --distrib ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/i586
>>> The x86_64 repository is not finished yet, but you still can add it in
>>> this way:
>>> urpmi.addmedia --wget --distrib
>>> ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/x86_64
>>> Cheers!
>> Hello
>> Thanks to you...
>> Just one thing to correct : your repos addresses are :
>> ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/free/i586/
>> ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/free/x86_64/
>> nevertheless I could surf through your repos :
>> Some of the rpms you propose reply to rpm requests already done or that
>> I was going to write (reading my thoughts ?)
>> :)
>> First thing I must say : it's a very good idea to upload these packages
>> to the BS and join the packagers team instead of providing third party
>> repos that will soon create compatibility problems (as in the past for
>> Mandrake and Mandriva with Thac's or MIB or others)
>> The second thing is : before uploading them you will have to be careful
>> with the repos policy (core tainted non-free)
>> In your own repo, there is a problematic package : faac (and libfaac0
>> libfaac-devel) which is both non-free and tainted ...
>> After long dicussions on the mailing list a meeting decision was not to
>> provide it at the moment (nor the packages built with it...)
>> If a non-free-&-tainted repo is created for Mageia2, in the future, it
>> will be then allowed ... wait and see !
> I was thinking about a workaround to the problem of "non-free_&_tainted"
> rpms in Mageia
> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2833
> Some multimedia programs can't correctly handle files containing aac
> sound (*.aac *.mp4 *.m4a) because faac and faac-devel are not provided.
> And that's really missing !!!
> They can't and won't be backported to Mageia1 official repos...
> Perhaps a new "non-free&  tainted" repo will exist for Mageia2
> Actually for Mageia1 Blogdrake might provide a third repo for this dozen
> of srpms (even if the existence of third repo is not riskless)
> Picking their last spec file from Mageia, and modifying the plf or
> tainted conditionnal building options to allow building with
> faac-devel... wouldn't be too much difficult and wouldn't bring much
> compatibility problems
> If the version number is the same as in mageia repos, a "twisted"
> distsuffix would allow to "update" to them from core or tainted version
> (the same way as "tainted" distsuffix allows to update from a core release)
> and wouldn't prevent to update to a core or tainted new version later if
> provided in official updates repo
> But... there's the :
> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2317
> would it add other problems to this ?
> But too there wouldn't exist QA for them
> What do you think (on Mageia side and on Blogdrake side) ?

A personal POV from the Mageia side --
It could be a good way to evaluate the need for a Nonfree+Tainted repo, 
as well as providing a ready source for those interested in such packages.

Maybe another approach could be to try to separate nonfree and tainted 
parts, so that either
- nonfree packages could optionally use "tainted" packages if installed, or
- "tainted" packages could optionally use nonfree packages if installed,
each in their respective current repos.
Which won't work if a particular component is necessarily both nonfree 
and "tainted".

my 2 cents :-)


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