[Mageia-dev] Java-Policy first draft published

Renaud MICHEL r.h.michel+mageia at gmail.com
Thu Jan 13 00:33:20 CET 2011

On mercredi 12 janvier 2011 at 23:54, Frank Griffin wrote :
> Users of things like NetBeans and Eclipse are used to the mechanisms
> provided by those tools for managing plugin installation, and are not
> going to take kindly to having to use rpmdrake instead.

Well, I use eclipse everyday (arrive at work, start eclipse and close it at 
the end of day before leaving) but I don't like its trying to duplicate what 
package managers do better. I want to know what' installed on may computer, 
how and where.
For years I used to grab the pre-build archives and manage their 
dependencies by hand. A few month ago, I decided to repackage those as rpms 
with proper dependencies between packages to have urpmi do the work for me. 
It was a little complicated to find in the features and packages where their 
dependencies were stored, to extract them automatically at package build.
So I was able to split it in many sub-packages to be able to install only 
what I need.
The only downside is that it is built from binary archives and not from 
source, but for my own use it does work well.

Back to your remark, people who don't like to have eclipse installed via rpm 
simply won't. They will continue to download the tarball from eclipse.org 
and install the plugins they want, either from archives or update sites.
They can also install only the platform from the rpm and, if the -
configuration and -data options are properly added to eclipse startup, they 
will be able to install in their home dir the plugins they want using the 
update sites.

I won't comment on maven as I don't know how it works (the last time I tried 
to build from source a program using maven I did not find what options I was 
supposed to give to the mvn command to have it built).

Renaud Michel

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