[Mageia-dev] Compatibility: %mdkversion macro?

Anssi Hannula anssi.hannula at iki.fi
Fri Jan 21 14:45:37 CET 2011

On 17.01.2011 10:38, Michael scherer wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 01:19:29AM +0100, Samuel Verschelde wrote:
>> Le dimanche 16 janvier 2011 00:07:56, Anssi Hannula a écrit :
>>> Hi all!
>>> Should we have a %mdkversion (and %mdkver/%mdvver) that is hardcoded to
>>> 201100 for the time being, or should we not have one at all?
>>> Not having it will cause any src.rpms that have any
>>> "%if %mdkversion < x" to fail to build.
>>> I'm strongly in favor of having it for compatibility reasons, so that
>>> most MDV src.rpms keep building on Mageia for the time being, including
>>> those provided by any 3rd party packagers.
>>> Not having the macro will cause us to lose that compatibility for very
>>> little benefit, IMO. It could maybe be removed after several releases,
>>> but not before.
>>> However, it seems blino disagreed with this, and he thinks we should not
>>> have these macros at all.
>>> What do other people think?
>> If not having those macros means we can't compile mdv SRPMS on mageia, then 
>> I'd prefer we keep it.
> then keep them forever ?
> Because for one, mdkversion should have disappeared when the suffix was changed,
> something like 5 years ago. And the fact we still rely on it is not a good sign.
> More ever, even on Mandriva, most of them do not make much sense. Most of the software
> are not backported ( as the usage of the macros is mainly for stuff replaced 
> by filetrigger ), and they are never cleaned.
> On the file trigger side, we have most of the macros going back to 2009.0, where we
> can't backport anything on the BS. And 2010.0 for the trigger for web application, and 
> I do not think we backport them usually ( as people barely see the value of packaging 
> them... ).
> So I think we will not have much problem, except this force us to do more cleaning.
> Cleaning that obviously didn't happened before, as we are needing to do it now.
> So drop it, have more generic macros, and smarter policy.

The problem is not backports IMO, it is building 3rdparty src.rpm or old
src.rpm on Mageia (i.e. forward-porting), which won't work if we do not
have %mdkversion.

Anssi Hannula

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