[Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories

[Samuel Verschelde]

Le lundi 28 février 2011 18:21:58, Michael Scherer a écrit :
> Le samedi 26 février 2011 à 01:00 +0100, Samuel Verschelde a écrit :
> > Le vendredi 25 février 2011 10:33:42, Michael Scherer a écrit :
> > > Le vendredi 25 février 2011 à 09:19 +0100, Samuel Verschelde a écrit :
> > > > Le vendredi 25 février 2011 01:12:07, Michael Scherer a écrit :
> > > > > What need to be taken in account too is also the case
> > > > > Internet => 5-7 apps.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Having :
> > > > > Internet => 5-7 submenus => 1 app entry
> > > > > is IMHO clearly suboptimal.
> > > > > 
> > > > > ( ie, 1 step more to get application , on a total of 3, that's a
> > > > > lot ).
> > > > 
> > > > Does it happen ? In a default Mandriva KDE installation I already
> > > > have more than 10 internet applications.
> > > 
> > > I do not use kde, but that doesn't sound good.
> > > What are the entries ? Are all of them really needed ?
> > 
> > - akregator
> > - kaddressbook
> > - kmail
> > - network center (mandriva)
> > - kbluetooth
> > - kget (download manager)
> > - knetattach (= add a network
> > - knode : newsgroups reader (unless I installed it manually, not sure)
> > - konqueror
> > - kontact
> > - konversation
> > - kopete
> > - korganizer
> > - kppp
> > - krdc
> > - krfb
> > - ktorrent (unless I installed it manually)
> > - firefox
> > 
> > And I agree that many of those will not be used by most people
> 
> There is some duplicate :
> firefox / konqueror
> kontact / korganiser / kmail / kadressboo, that somehow all overlap ( IIRC
> from my kde days ) - kppp / network center / knetattach -> manage network
> 
> > > > I prefer 3 quick steps rather than 2 long steps.
> > > 
> > > This would requires some testing and measures to see which is faster,
> > > which is more confusing. Fcrozat did some tests, but I think the report
> > > were not published :/
> > > 
> > > > And KDE gives you the
> > > > "recently used applications" on top of the menu, so the extra step is
> > > > no big deal.
> > > 
> > > Shall I remind that there is more than KDE in the world ?
> > 
> > No, because it suggests I forgot it, which is not the case :)
> > But you mean there is no such functionality in GNOME and other commonly
> > used environments ?
> 
> I never seen this on windows, ( which is still the most common used
> evnironment, even if my own usage date back to xp ), neither on mac os x
> ( on 10.5 ).

Well, for windows I think you just didn't see it :)
"Commonly used programs are automatically displayed in the left-hand menu"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Start_menu#Evolution_of_the_Start_Menu

I think I had that functionality already in windows 98 (but that could be a 
false memory, I don't guarantee).

Samuel