[Mageia-dev] Non-free firmwares in installer

[Michael Scherer]

Le jeudi 24 mars 2011 à 14:24 +0200, Anssi Hannula a écrit :
> On 24.03.2011 12:53, Michael Scherer wrote:
> > Le jeudi 24 mars 2011 à 11:15 +0100, Thorsten van Lil a écrit :
> >> Am 24.03.2011 09:57, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
> >>> 2011/3/24 Ahmad Samir<ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com>:
> >>>> On 24 March 2011 02:58, Dexter Morgan<dmorganec at gmail.com>  wrote:
> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Ahmad Samir<ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com>  wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Has the Free DVD in Mandriva ever contained non-free firmware?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> No, but the question is more , will we provide a "non free" dvd iso,
> >>>>> and this question is i think interesting.
> >>>>>
> >>> A possible solution for people with such a setup could be a non-free
> >>> "driver cd ISO" which they could include in the installation process.
> >>>
> >>
> >> What about a DVD including non-free packages but has the option to not 
> >> install them?
> >> I think the majority of the users don't care that much about proprietary 
> >> issues, they just need them for using there wireless card or graphic 
> >> card. Those how do care can just uncheck the non-free part of the DVD. :)
> > 
> > Well, personally, then I would just continue to use Fedora or others
> > distribution on my computers, and keep Mageia just for the servers of
> > the project. 
> 
> Fedora includes non-free firmware both in repo and medias, so why prefer
> that?

I know, I likely use them for my wifi card (Atheros AR5008) and also use
external ones for my dvb card ( aver-tv red hd+ ), and my webcam
( iSight ). 

But my issue is not about non-free firmwares and those who use them or
not, but about the gradual move to non-free packages on the free dvd iso
( http://netsplit.com/2006/11/27/slippery-slopes/ ).

When I started at Mandrake Linux, there was no non-free repository. Then
one day, non-free was created, and then soon, it was activated by
default for the free version. Then I opened this bug,
https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=40033 , who took 2 years to be
fixed. And what I just see is yet another push to bury a little bit more
values I care. 

-- 
Michael Scherer