[Mageia-dev] Task-obsolete and non-sense obsoletes

[andre999]

nicolas vigier a écrit :
> On Tue, 07 Aug 2012, Pascal Terjan wrote:
>
>    
>> On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Olivier Thauvin
>> <nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org>  wrote:
>>      
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Many people already complain about it, but for me task-obsolete must
>>> die.
>>>        
>> I don't think so, but people should not be allowed to add random
>> obsoletes there.
>>
>>      
>>> First I just remove but urpmi claim it must come back on my system...
>>> probably because it claim to replace lib64db5.2, even maybe still need
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Secondly it contains non-sense dependencies:
>>> Obsoletes: lib64db5.2<  5.2.42-3
>>>
>>> Any lib64db5.2 over this version will by definition obsoletes any
>>> packages having same name.
>>> So this mean anyone can keep the lib64db5.2 as soon the release tag
>>> is increased or someone push into mga 2 / update any libdb higher
>>> than 5.2.42 (5.2.43 for example).
>>>
>>> Moreover, any package lacking of requirements during an upgrade is
>>> removed by urpmi.
>>>
>>> I no-one complain, I'll do a major cleanup (eg removing everything at
>>> least everything starting by lib) in package this week
>>>
>>> But I am still in favor to remove it. In past, package we didn't want to
>>> support anymore was just removed from mirrors, and this was enough to
>>> show their status.
>>>        
>> But people will not be notified of it.
>> If a system is obsolete with the new distribution and known to break
>> things/contain major security problems, I think having a place to put
>> the obsoletes is good.
>> But really I wouldn't expect more than 2 or 3 such packages in a release...
>>      
> Maybe we could change task-obsolete to conflict with obsolete packages
> instead of obsoleting them :
> - people who want to remove unsupported packages from their system
>    install task-obsolete
> - people who don't want to remove unsupported packages don't install
>    task-obsolete
>
> This will also make urpmi/rpmdrake warn before removing packages,
> instead of silently removing them.
>
>    
+1
Conflicts would also make it easier to remove task-obsolete, if one had 
inadvertantly installed it.

-- 
André