[Mageia-dev] Improving communications
joequant at gmail.com
Sun Dec 2 07:10:34 CET 2012
I have a few suggestions for improving packaging communications
where I'll keep updated the status of my packaging, and I'll try to
forward notices from the mailing list. Having something on the wiki
makes things a bit more organized. I've changed the links a bit so to
tell people to look on that page first for important notices.
* Mageia-mentors mailing list or backup mentors
It would be good if there was a mageia-mentors mailing list in which
private e-mail to and from the mentors could be cc'ed to so that all
of the mentors would have an overview of what conversations would
happen and there would be a "backup" in case a mentor goes offline.
Alternatively, people could get in a the habit of having a backup
mentor cc'ed that can respond if something comes up.
It would also be good to change the instruction page with something
instructions like "if you don't hear back from X in three days, then
What happened with me was that I had been packaging a large number of
packages and coordinating things offline with my mentor. I mentioned
that I was packaging cinnamon and then when I was done (and it was
just a minor project), I mentioned that I was done. I didn't hear
back, but that's happened before, and that's not a problem. The
problem was that when I looked on the dev list for something
unrelated, I found out that the cinnamon packages had been bounced.
That wasn't a problem since they had been bounced for very good
technical reasons, which I've been fixing. Unfortunately, I was
reading the e-mail out of context so it looked to me like some tiny
cabal had bounced all my packages for no reason at all, and so I went
ballistic. The most annoying problem is that no one mentioned it me
that there was a technical issue with cinnamon.
Part of the issue is since I'm new, I don't know the people, and so I
can't tell based on limited information if people are being reasonable
or not. Automatically assuming that people are being reasonable won't
work, because you'll find a lot of groups on the internet in which
people aren't reasonable (i.e. there is a reason why people are
dumping Gnome3 for Cinnamon) and people don't have the time and energy
to find out what's going on, and there is a lot of
"pseudo-reasonableness" out there. Working with a lot of volunteer
groups has made me a little paranoid when someone seems nice.
For people with a CS bent, a lot of issues that you run into with
coordinating people are the same that you run into in coordinating
CPU/GPU's and doing parallel computing. You can map some of the
issues that I've run into into the "two generals problem".
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