[Mageia-dev] Orphans - those poor orphans . . .

Pascal Terjan pterjan at gmail.com
Sun Jan 8 20:41:12 CET 2012


On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 16:04, ptyxs <ptyxs at free.fr> wrote:
> Le 08/01/2012 16:59, Pascal Terjan a écrit :
>
>> On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 16:48, Thomas Spuhler<thomas at btspuhler.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 06, 2012 12:57:39 PM Sander Lepik wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 06.01.2012 21:06, Dale Huckeby kirjutas:
>>>>>
>>>>> Evidently once I've installed package A which requests X, sometimes
>>>>> packages F, L, and T might subsequently get installed which also need X
>>>>> *and presumably would have requested it had it not already been
>>>>> installed*.  But when I uninstall A it orphans X because A is the only
>>>>> package that *requested* it.  When F, L, and T are installed can't all
>>>>> the packages they *would have requested* be marked whether or not
>>>>> they're already installed?  That way a package would be orphaned only
>>>>> when the last package that needs it is uninstalled?  Or am I missing
>>>>> something?
>>>>
>>>> This is already so. See example: http://pastebin.com/AMj87QiV - after
>>>> first
>>>> urpme libplasmaweather4 should be marked as orphan but it's not as it's
>>>> still required by other package.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Sander
>>>
>>> It seems to me, auto-orphans gives more headaches than benefits. Why are
>>> we
>>> clinching to it?
>>
>> Because I and meany other people finding it useful never faced any
>> problems on their machine with it.
>>
>> The only problems I can remember are:
>> - people wanted to remove some things required by task-kde, which
>> implied removing task-kde, and then all of kde was orphan. I think
>> many things were move to suggests since
>> - some kind of install was installing packages requested by nothing
>> and they were not marked as requested so they were listed as orphans,
>> but this was fixed long ago
>>
> I recently installed Okular then i removed xpdf and then used auto-orphans :
> I immedialtely lost any possibility to use wifi...

What would be useful would be to know what package was removed, and
how it had been installed


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