[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [4436] german keyboard: default to variant with enabled deadkeys instead of "nodeadkeys variant" ( mga#3791)

Oliver Burger oliver.bgr at googlemail.com
Mon Jul 30 14:49:41 CEST 2012


Am 30.07.2012 14:41, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
> 2012/7/30 Thierry Vignaud<thierry.vignaud at gmail.com>:
>> On 28 June 2012 02:51, Thierry Vignaud<thierry.vignaud at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>> german keyboard: default to variant with enabled deadkeys instead
>>>>>> of"nodeadkeys variant"  (mga#3791)
>>>>>
>>>>> Oups, why that?
>>>>> As far as I'm concerned no deadkeys is the default for German users and
>>>>> that's good!
>>>>>
>>>>> Any reasons for this change?
>>>>
>>>> Call it "Competitive analysis" if you want. Keyboards comes with those
>>>> little keys that are meant to produce accented characters in
>>>> combination with regular letters, and this how it works on Windows,
>>>> the platform most users will migrate from, and also on Mac OS X.
>>>>
>>>> Regular users don't have any use of stand-alone-accent-characters. And
>>>> even with deadkeys it is easy to produce the standalone accent by just
>>>> pressing the key twice (so you can get backticks easily).
>>>> If you're a programmer and are using a nodeadkeys variant for that
>>>> reason, you're not the target population of a suggested default. (If
>>>> you know what is meant with "deadkeys" and "nodeadkeys", you're not in
>>>> target of that dialog, and have the knowledge to not accept the
>>>> default, but choose the nodeadkeys variant that is listed right next
>>>> to the regular variant).
>>>>
>>>> The variant with deadkeys is called "German" without any addition for
>>>> a reason. If nodeadkeys were the expected/more common choice, then it
>>>> would be "German (international)" or "German (deadkeys)", like it is
>>>> the case for the US-variants.
>>>
>>> So Olivier, do you agree with that change or not?
>
> It may be logical but German users have been taught to use
> "nodeadkeys" for ages. Changing this now just because of semantics
> does not seem to be a wise move (I always use "German"). But OTOH it
> is not such a big thing. It will cause the usual number of questions
> in the forums ("MAG3 breaks my keyboard!") but this will vanish over
> the years. :)
>
This must have slipped my mind...
I concur with wobo. This change will cause such forums posts but that 
will be solved soon after Mga3 release.
The question is, how do other distros do it? A colleague just told me, 
his Ubuntu chose the no dead key variant by default.
What about Fedora and openSUSE or don't we care at all?

As for myself, I will just change it back on my systems so it's no big deal.

Oliver

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