[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console

Colin Guthrie mageia at colin.guthr.ie
Wed Mar 7 00:11:06 CET 2012

'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 06/03/12 20:29 did gyre and gimble:
> Op dinsdag 06 maart 2012 21:19:49 schreef Colin Guthrie:
>> 'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 06/03/12 20:09 did gyre and gimble:
>>> Op dinsdag 06 maart 2012 20:52:02 schreef Colin Guthrie:
>>>> 'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 06/03/12 19:41 did gyre and gimble:
>>>>> Op dinsdag 06 maart 2012 14:28:38 schreef Colin Guthrie:
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>> Now I'm not sure on the logic inside the Xserver that is used to
>>>>>> search for a free getty. it maybe starts from the current one and
>>>>>> counts up. If so, this logic should (IMO) be changed to start
>>>>>> searching from 1 that way it would relatively consistently start on
>>>>>> vt1 even when restarted from tty2.
>>>>>> Col
>>>>> have you been successfull with 2 user sessions?
>>>> As in logging out and back in again or with fast user switching?
>>>> The former has worked quite happily for me. Not tested the latter but I
>>>> expect there to be some quirks.
>>>> Col
>>> err, no, i mean 2 X sessions.
>>> often i have one KDE session running on vt8 and one for my wife on vt9
>>> and sometimes on for my daughter at vt10...
>> OK, so fast user switching then.
>>> the question is, with the prefdm only conflicting with the first getty,
>>> will several X sessions be possible?
>> Yeah. They should, in theory at least, start on vt2 and vt3, tho' this
>> may depend on the desktop itself. With GDM+Gnome the second session
>> starts on tty2, the third on tty3 etc.
>> There is a caveat however. If you have switched to tty2 before picking
>> the "Login as another user" option, then autovt will have kicked in and
>> started a getty there. It then "hogs" tty2 and prevents X from using it.
>> Of course if I manage to get my idea working, switching to tty2 when in
>> graphical.target will actually give you a graphical login prompt anyway,
>> so pretty much the same thing as picking the "Login as another user"
>> option from within the first graphical session.
>> Col
> ic...
> i do hope we get some kind of vt that will always be tty? i do sometimes 
> require that, when getting too much load and OOM'ing...

Yeah I agree here. That's why I originally suggested keeping some TTY
for text use (tho' I do still think the primary focus on a graphical
setup should be for graphical login hence why tty1-8 (ish) should be IMO
reserved for graphical logins, with text only on 9+ or similar. I think
that's a good compromise, even if it's not what the greybeards expect (I
do still consider myself to be a greybeard in some ways too here! I hope
no one takes this as derogatory :D)

> also, it'd be nice to have as possibility (in the dm) to start a tty session 
> instead of a graphical session (as an alternative)

While I don't necessarily disagree with this, I think it should be very
much de-emphasised. Not obvious for novice users, but something power
users could find.

Take care



Colin Guthrie

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