[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release task-gnome-3.3.2-8.mga2

Olav Vitters olav at vitters.nl
Mon Mar 12 18:40:52 CET 2012

On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 06:16:37PM +0100, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
> On 12 March 2012 18:06, ovitters <buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org> wrote:
> > ovitters <ovitters> 1:3.3.2-8.mga2:
> > + Revision: 223037
> > - ensure gnome-utils is installed (mga#4903)
> 1) This is not what you've done.
> What you've done is suggesting many GNOME packages that don't came
> from gnome-utils
> but come from their own SRPMS.

gnome-utils was split up into various tarballs:

task-gnome contained only a "Obsoletes: gnome-utils". I replaced it with
suggests for the splitted packages to ensure that gnome-screenshot (the
bug) as well as the other replacements would be installed.

Or do you mean that above webpage is wrong? Could be, didn't really
check that thoroughly what packages replaced gnome-utils.

> 2) Also as those are suggests, they'll never end on the install DVD,
> thus defeating
> " ensure gnome-utils is installed"

I have asked many times about task-gnome and task-gnome-minimal and
everyone has their own definition. I've asked various times if the
"GNOME" option in the installer could please reflect "GNOME", and not
some weird cut-down version of it called "task-gnome-minimal", but
haven't gotten very far with that.

I don't want to step on toes and just ignore the "task-gnome-minimal" vs
"task-gnome", etc (I still don't get why we have -minimal; I also don't
see why we have task-gnome though.. seems that not even Nautilus would
be installed), so I added Suggests instead.

I don't really see any difference between either having the
gnome-screenshot as a Suggests in task-gnome (which the installer
doesn't install, it looks at task-gnome-minimal) or as Suggests in
task-gnome-minimal (which won't end up on the DVD apparently).
If task-gnome-minimal is "not to be touched" and task-gnome is not
installed by the installer.. what am I to do to fix bugs? Suggests seems
like the only option. Furthermore, I've also added a gnome-screenshot
Suggests to gnome-shell.

IMO mga#4903 was an avoidable bug. As bugs are discovered on resulting
dependency problems, I want to fix every case. To me it seems the wrong
way to deal with this, but I rather raise "-minimal" strangeness after
Mageia 2 release so I can point at the resulting bugs.


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