[Mageia-dev] [RFC] rsyslog vs journalctl

[Pascal Terjan]

On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Colin Guthrie <mageia at colin.guthr.ie> wrote:
> 'Twas brillig, and AL13N at 07/02/13 18:40 did gyre and gimble:
>> Op donderdag 7 februari 2013 13:34:06 schreef Colin Guthrie:
>>> 'Twas brillig, and AL13N at 07/02/13 11:40 did gyre and gimble:
>> [...]
>>>> what about the tty12 bug? can this be fixed with journald? it seems to be
>>>> a feature that people don't want to lose?
>>>
>>> Not sure. I'll find out. It should be trivial really... i.e. all it
>>> really needs is a journalctl -f command run on tty12. You could craft an
>>> agetty command that worked like that easily enough, although there may
>>> be something more elegant that is more efficient and cleaner.
>>
>> since the tty12 "feature" is present now, it would be nice if it could still
>> be there and started as soon as possible, just like before.
>
> Just to try it, can you set:
>
> TTYPath=/dev/tty12
> ForwardToConsole=yes
>
> in /etc/systemd/journald.conf
>
>
> I'm not 100% sure whether it really should be available by default tho'.
> I mean, if you are a logged in user you cannot view the system logs
> unless you are in the adm group or root. Why should you just be able to
> see it via switching to a tty? Seems somewhat counter intuitive to me.

I think it used to be enabled or not by msec depending on security level

> Of course you could say that if someone has physical access then all
> bets are off anyway... but IMO it does still seem slightly juxtaposed.
>
> Thoughts welcome on whether:
>  a) This should be off by default (as now - but change from classic syslog)
>  b) We should default it to on.
>  c) We should provide an easy to use ticky box to turn it off/on easily
> via GUI.
>
> Regardless, we should probably configure all syslogs to not do this by
> default (as it will class if it's enabled in the journal).
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Col
>
>
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