[Mageia-discuss] rpm or deb?

Lucien-Henry Horvath tempo2 at marneau.eu
Mon Sep 27 00:40:44 CEST 2010

Hi, (en FR en-dessous)
My suggestion is a little crazy ...
With the new departure of this distro, perhaps is it a good idea to 
invent a sort of "unified managment" of DEV / RPM.
We start on urpmi, and add to urpmi the abilities to encapsulate apt-get ?
So just easy play " urpmi http://www.skype.com/download/skype.deb" ;-) 
It's auto-manage dependencies and finaly, urpmi launch "apt-get install".
Is it technicaly possible ?
Bonjour (in EN up)
Ma suggestion suivante va paraître débile, mais ...
En créant une nouvelle distribution, ce serait peut-être une bonne idée 
d'inventer _enfin_ une sorte de "gestion unifiée" des paquetages deb et rpm.
L'idée est d'encapsuler apt-get dans urpmi.
Ainsi, on lance juste urpmi "URL/téléchargement/fichier.deb" et ça gère 
tout seul les dépendances.
Est-ce techniquement possible ?

Le 26/09/2010 23:55, Carlos Daniel Ruvalcaba Valenzuela a écrit :
> I personally found no practical advantage of using apt-get vs urpmi,
> while apt has many nice features urpmi is also solid and works
> perfectly in most common cases, the only problem you may have is with
> malformed packages or with erroneous dependency information, in which
> case the only advantage of apt-get is the fact that Debian takes a lot
> of care of having correct and working packages, which most RPM based
> distros does too (you may get problems with 3th party repos but that
> is another problem).
> Being a Mandriva fork we would logically stick with it's tools and
> packaging system.
> Regards,
> Carlos Daniel Ruvalcaba Valenzuela
> On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Kristoffer Grundström
> <kristoffer.grundstrom1983 at gmail.com>  wrote:
>> Why not create a new format with the best of both worlds (if possible)?
>> .mageia ?
>> Hoyt Duff skrev 2010-09-26 19:44:
>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 7:13 AM, RAVI KUMAR BALASUBRAMANIAM
>> <ravikumar17jan at gmail.com>  wrote:
>> only thing i hate about mandriva is its rpm based packages
>> i prefer apt and deb personally
>>   I can understand a personal preference, but why do you believe that
>> deb is superior to rpm? Given that Mandriva is already rpm-based, what
>> benefit could be derived from abandoning the existing build system and
>> urpmi?
>> > From everything I have read, neither system has a clear advantage over
>> the other, and the end result of using either is essentially the same.
>> I don't believe that changing to a deb-based system would provide any
>> significant benefit to justify the expense in terms of re-training
>> devs and  creating a new build system.

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