[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers
andr55 at laposte.net
Sun Jan 9 09:23:13 CET 2011
Remy CLOUARD a écrit :
> On Sat, Jan 08, 2011 at 11:16:00PM +0100, Samuel Verschelde wrote:
>> Vincent Untz from Novell, who works on openSuse, invited us (and contributers
>> from other distributions, including Fedora, Debian and Ubuntu) to participate
>> in a meeting about software installers and the end-user experience.
>> Here is how Vincent presents the project :
>> ----- Quote -----
>> *** Goals ***
>> Blue-sky goals:
>> * agree on a common UI to install applications
>> * agree on what metadata to use, how to generate it, where to host it
>> * agree on a protocol to use to provide non-static metadata (featured
>> apps, ratings, comments, etc.)
>> * decide what metadata can be shared between distros, and what should stay
>> distro-specific (eg: do we want user comments to be shared?)
>> In reality, if it turns out we can't all agree on one item, it's still fine: it
>> doesn't mean we can't collaborate on the other items. And some distros might
>> still work together.
>> It's worth mentioning here that what matters to us is the end-user experience.
>> It matters more than the technical implementation.
>> *** Background ***
>> Nearly all distributions are slowly moving towards making it easier to deal
>> with applications, and get information about those. The Ubuntu Software Center
>> is a good example of work being done here.
>> At the moment, many of us are working in our own corners, while we could
>> certainly all move much faster if we worked together, especially since we're
>> all targetting mostly the same result.
>> We do want content to be provided not just by us, distributors, but also by
>> the users: their experience with an application can inspire other users to
>> install it too.
>> The goals of this meeting is to see what can be put in common and harmonized
>> between various distributions, from the end-user point of view.
>> ----- End of quote -----
>> The meeting will occur in Nürnberg, Germany from January 19th to 21st
>> We don't know yet what the outcome of this 3-days meeting will be, but it may
>> be a great opportunity.
>> For the mageia side, the participants will be :
>> - Michael Scherer (misc)
>> - Olivier Thauvin (Nanar), author of Sophie, the cross-distribution RPM
>> - Samuel Verschelde (Stormi), for the mageia-app-db project.
>> Best regards
>> Samuel Verschelde
> Great !
> This sounds like a very good idea, such a move would be great to improve
> interaction between distributions and divide the needed effort to
> produce for each distribution.
> As far as I’m concerned, I’m sorry the schedule is a bit too tight for
> me, I won’t be able to attend this meeting. Besides, the cost of the
> ticket won’t make it possible either.
> I’m eager to know what will come out of this meeting, have a good trip !
I really interested in that too. (But likewise can't attend.)
Have you noticed the Mancoosi project ?
It's an experimental international project to develop means of making
software installation, and rolling back to the previous state in case of
They're even exploring allowing installation with ordinary user
privileges. (By considerable redundancy.)
(The downside seems that it would use a lot more disk space.)
see www.mancoosi.org + blog.mancoosi.org
It might be useful to review before your meeting.
And be sure to take notes, to let us in on the discussions :)
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