[Mageia-discuss] mageiaupdate and the list of updates

andre999 andr55 at laposte.net
Sat Jul 2 17:14:20 CEST 2011

Antoine Pitrou a écrit :
> On Sat, 2 Jul 2011 13:22:30 +0200
> Wolfgang Bornath<molch.b at googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>> No need to. For me a system is a whole. If I have one insecure part
>> the whole system is insecure.
> That's getting really off-topic. If you arguing that nobody should skip
> any security update, then please make a proposal to make those
> updates automatic and without user confirmation.
> If OTOH Mageia asks the user to confirm updates manually (which it
> currently *does*), then my request makes sense.
>> As has been said, you can safely remove suggested packages, so this
>> question about updates of suggested packages does not come up in the
>> first place.
> That's another loss of time. Why should I bother removing many packages
> by hand from my system? I don't lack disk space.
> You are requesting that I dedicate a lot of time administrating and
> tweaking my system. Well if I wanted to do that I'd install Debian,
> Gentoo or FreeBSD. There's a reason I use Mageia, which is to have a
> system which is user-friendly by default and doesn't ask for a lot of
> manual intervention. Being able to review updates without first typing
> a password is also part of that.
> Regards
> Antoine.

With the right adjustement of the present tools, you could spend less time on 
administration than you do now.  Since updates are part of system administration.

Suppose during the update process you have a check box to put a particular 
update on the skip list, or another to uninstall the corresponding package.
If the package is uninstalled, you would no longer have to deal with updates to 
it, so the update process would be faster.
Note that if you can't uninstall a package because it is required, it is usually 
inadvisable skip updates, unless you really understand the issues.
If you don't have a limited bandwidth, there is usually no disadvantage to 
installing all updates for such packages.

Changing when the password is requested would reduce the security for the 
system, as unauthorised users could see what is installed.  This may not affect 
you personnally, but such an option would best not be the default, to protect 
other systems.  So it could be more complicated than the changes suggested 
above, and would only save you a few seconds.


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