[Mageia-i18n] What was wrong with Transifex?

Yuri Chornoivan yurchor at ukr.net
Mon Apr 1 11:47:34 CEST 2013


Just some points below.

Sun, 31 Mar 2013 23:52:08 +0300 було написано atilla ontas  
<tarakbumba at gmail.com>:

> Good night everyone. I was long gone previous year. Now back to work and
> begin to contribute. I have missed the Transifex issue. As i read from
> mailing list archives, the problem was our transifex installation and as  
> i
> see from bug reports there are few to maintain mageia transifex. So, we
> abandoned Tx. But now there is no other web interface for i18n tasks.
> I' m Turkish coordinator of Transifex, Archlinux AUR translation projects
> and contributor to others as well. I do not see issues for them those we
> had with our tx, So, i want to ask; can't we use transifex.net instead of
> installing and trying to maintain our tx? Is it hard or impossible?

As a Fedora Ukrainian team coordinator I have to say that there is no  
problems with tx.net instance from the translator side. It is just  
problematic for developers. They constantly forget to do tx pull/tx push  
in Fedora which leads to untranslated apps. Moreover, to be able to run  
such commands it is necessary to have the last versions of tx packages in  
Mageia. So we need a maintainer.

To sum up:

1. Transifex cannot commit directly into SVN and Pootle can.
2. We have Friedel Wolff to help us with Pootle and no maintainer for tx  
packages now.
3. Developers have not said anything about if they can or want to add "tx  
pull" into Makefiles. So we first need to hear from them and the Board to  
switch to tx.net.

> I know, Pootle is an alternative but if we try to install it under
> mageia.org domain and try to maintain it i think it would be hard. I  
> mean,
> few people to maintain and lack of time may be problem. What do you  
> think?
> Or i missed too much about this particular issue?

So it is just a question on what packages will be maintained, Pootle or  
Transifex. So it is again a question of maintainership.

> Also, did Launchpad be considered for this?

1. Launchpad needs the whole project directly synced/hosted into Bazaar in  
LP itself.
2. Launchpad needs the POTs to be build during general make cycle (now  
they are updated/build by specialized Perl scripts).
3. Launchpad builds Debian-format packages only and Mageia is a Red  
Hat-type distribution (RPM).
4. Launchpad does not allow direct downloading/uploading translation. You  
have to wait for several hours just to download/upload a translated file.
4. Launchpad Rosetta module is unmaintained (see the constant "Timed out"  
errors that appears everywhere).

> I think, at least our Turkish team needs such an interface. I was sole
> Turkish translator for 4 years with Mandriva and it was a real pain.
> Without such a web interface most people do not want to use svn, git etc.

Ok. If we can find a maintainer for Pootle/Transifex/Weblate/what-so-ever  
packages we can talk about web translation. And if we (as a translation  
team) failed to do so, it is better to leave things as is and do not push  
on the current maintainers. They are already too overloaded.

Just my 2 cents.

Best regards,

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