[Mageia-webteam] [Bug 1956] Can not edit posts in forum (after timeout)

Barry Jackson bugzilla-daemon at mageia.org
Sat Jul 2 13:45:26 CEST 2011


https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1956

--- Comment #8 from Barry Jackson <zen25000 at zen.co.uk> 2011-07-02 15:45:26 CEST ---
(In reply to comment #7)
> (In reply to comment #6)
> > My impression of the council discussion (and the consequent decision) is
> > that there was concern about everyone having a "warm and cuddly"
> > feeling about Mageia (and each other)
> 
> Concern #1 was about the attitude, and indeed, how this would turn out for
> everyone. Concern #2 was about the technical topic at hand, and a decision has
> been reached, waiting to be fully implemented.
> 

As I saw it the discussion on the real issue was minimal and the "decision" was
pushed without any proper agreement. 

> > and little or no consideration of the utility of the Forum as a research resource
> > for users and of the fact that this limit can make life difficult for those people
> > who spend time providing assistance to other users.

Exactly

> You have to distinguish the forum-as-a-discussion-place (where keeping posts in
> their original form is crucial) and the forum-as-a-support/doc-tool-place
> (where obsoleting/updating posts, with update timestamps is crucial as well).
> 
> Both have their own contingencies and may be best served by distinct platform
> (the former is more in phpBB's original purpose, the latter more in an
> equivalent to http://stackoverflow.com/ platform).
> 
> If those are to be served by the same platform, that makes several use cases to
> satisfy. And here obviously, the forum was first thought as a discussion
> platform.

Well no actually :-
http://www.mageia.org/en/support/ 

This shows the forum as primarily a "support forum" not as a discussion place.

> 
> So you may of course argue of the contrary, but arguing won't lead as far as
> really giving a hand, joining the team and helping to better configure the
> team, the platform, and if needed, a distinct platform.
>

By reporting this bug the intention was to give a hand at improving the forum
by making the job of those prepared to help and offer support easier.
Likewise with https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1188 which has also
fallen on stony ground.

> Furthermore, arguing of one's experience with forum is not that much helpful -
> some have satisfying experience with forums with no edit capacity, as that was
> an expected behaviour.

The whole point of this bug report is that this is NOT expected behaviour. Most
of the helpers in this forum come from Mandriva where the forum worked just
fine without any time limit.

This bug report is not about politics but simply about the time limit on the
editing of posts.

Can we put the politics to one side and discuss just the bug please?

BTW I tried to get a post modified by reporting it to the mods with clear
instructions about what needed changing and it's now at 3 days and counting
with no response.

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