[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two

Jerome Quelin jquelin at gmail.com
Tue Nov 30 08:50:22 CET 2010


On 10/11/30 00:29 -0500, andre999 wrote:
> My point is that a sandbox will facilitate proper support.  Which
> would be facilitated by keeping the 2 sets of free repositories.
> And restricting what should be considered core.
> We both know that Mandriva is moving in that direction.  Evidently
> recognising that they weren't restrictive enough in the past.
> 
> Your focus is removing 1 of these repository sets, and thus the sandbox.
> But I don't see your solution for giving priority to maintaining
> core packages ?
> These factors are undeniably linked.

no they're not. the problem is the lack of maintainers.

your answer: "it is in core media, so people will acknowledge it's
important and will step in".

guess what? they won't. history suggests that. the following too:
https://maint.mandriva.com/listpkgs.php?owner=1&media=1&scount=1000

you will answer that those packages should not be in main, but in extra
since they aren't really "core" (your definition of "core"). but most of
them are in main because of buildrequires dependencies. so what to do?

and by having 2 medias, you are increasing the work of potential
packagers. and their frustration. trust me on this - been there, done
that.

now michael's answer: "broken? no one steps in? removed from mageia."
does it suck? yes. as a user, i prefer having lots of packages
available, since it means that i won't have to package it myself if/when
i need the tool. 

but it has a great virtue: it passes reality check. less packages means
less work for the small pool of maintainer. and it may force people to
step in ('cause there's an impacting action that will happen otherwise)
rather than handwaving. which increases the pool of maintainer.

so i'm in favour of misc's proposal.
jérôme 
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