[Mageia-dev] new samba-squid subpackage proporsal

[Maarten Vanraes]

Op vrijdag 05 augustus 2011 19:05:43 schreef Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz:
> Le Vendredi 05 Août 2011 18:17:15 Maarten Vanraes a écrit :
> > Op woensdag 03 augustus 2011 14:01:16 schreef Buchan Milne:
> > > On Tuesday, 2 August 2011 22:23:24 Maarten Vanraes wrote:
> > > > Op dinsdag 02 augustus 2011 17:04:41 schreef Buchan Milne:
> > > > > Samba-common is the right package for this. I see no need to
> > > > > have a
> > > > > squid- specific subpackage (and then samba-apache,
> > > > > samba-freeradius,
> > > > > with the same content, or all virtual packages just pulling
> > > > > samba-common).
> > > > > 
> > > > > Feel free to mess up your squid package by adding suggests on
> > > > > samba-common, but since installing the right package is
> > > > > trivially
> > > > > solved by the admin and is a small portion of the work required,
> > > > > I
> > > > > would personally prefer not to increase the default footprint of
> > > > > any
> > > > > installation that pulls in squid.
> > > > 
> > > > this is really imho an example where conditional suggests could work
> > > > well: if you have squid already installed and you're installing
> > > > samba,
> > > > this subpackage could then be suggested. (and vice versa).
> > > 
> > > But, it is irrelevant. samba-common is required by both samba-client
> > > and samba-server, so you can't install samba without getting
> > > ntlm_auth.
> > 
> > there is definately a misunderstanding here, conditional suggests are not
> > usefull for requires, only for suggests
> > 
> > > This is really about whether squid should pull in any pieces of samba
> > > by default, and could be solved by adding:
> > > Suggests: samba-common
> > > 
> > > to squid. But, I don't see much value, as this is a small part of the
> > > work required to get a single-sign on authentication solution for squid
> > > against AD. The default squid.conf already has example configs showing
> > > that ntlm_auth is required, and all we are saving the user is a 'urpmf
> > > ntlm_auth' and a 'urpmi samba-common'. However, there are many
> > > scenarios squid can be deployed (e.g. SSO with GSSAPI, basic auth with
> > > LDAP, PAM, NIS etc., no authentication, peer cache only etc.), and I
> > > don't see a reason to pull in samba-common by default, when it saves
> > > the admin very little effort.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > Buchan
> > 
> > well if it was in a separate package (and not in samba-common), it would
> > be interesting to have conditional suggests. because then samba would
> > pull it in; and squid too, without needing samba if you don't have it.
> > 
> > but, maybe i'm misunderstanding this thread
> 
> That's what i was asking
> to create a new subpckage  samba-helper-squid to stor ntlm_auth since
> ntlm_auth is not linked with other lib it can stand by itself in a
> independend subpackage to make a suggest from squid.  But it seems Buchan
> refuses.
> 
> LD


well, it's possible, but since there is no conditional suggests yet, i agree 
with Buchan. if there was conditional suggests, that would be better...