[Mageia-dev] %{foo} vs. %foo

D.Morgan dmorganec at gmail.com
Mon Aug 22 00:49:34 CEST 2011

On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 12:27 AM, Colin Guthrie <mageia at colin.guthr.ie> wrote:
> 'Twas brillig, and Zé at 21/08/11 23:16 did gyre and gimble:
>> Hi,
>> Theres been a private discussion regarding the macro correct layout, if
>> %{foo} or %foo.
>> This rised when in the wiki
>> page http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=kde4_packaging_policy i changed
>> the spec layout from %foo into %{foo} to be as a reference point, in
>> wich mikala has reverted back to %foo, and this discussion has taken
>> other porportions so i would like your opinions regarding this.
>> I have pointed that for a wiki page should be proper to use %{...} to
>> avoid doubts specially in beginners minds, since in some situations we
>> need really to use the {} delimitations.
>> In wich its recommendation its focused in this cute PDF from redhat website:
>> http://www.redhat.com/promo/summit/2008/downloads/pdf/Wednesday_130pm_Tom_Callaway_OSS.pdf
>> Im not refering that now we should use only %{...}, that usage can be
>> handled from the user prespective (for example in my specs locally i
>> generally dont use delimitations), some like others dont.
>> As we also see in rpm macros
>> document http://www.rpm.org/wiki/PackagerDocs/Macros that we can use
>> both, but in all rpm docs and config files the common usage its with
>> delimitations.
> FWIW, personally I tend to use delimiters also.
> I prefer it as it feels more like strict typing.... I know it's not but
> I always like to make things totally and unequivocally explicit all the
> same.
> I tend to do this in my bash scripts and even in PHP scripts too (tho'
> annoyingly the PHP delimiters go outside of the variable identifier
> unlike in RPM macros and bash, so it's syntactically a little different
> but the same principles apply).
> Cheers

Me, i use both ( this depend if the rpm i work in had it or not ) but
for new rpm i use %foo.

But i don't see a need to add a policy for %{foo} against %foo.

I don't understand Ze mail, he ask to use %{foo} and imposed it by
changing in a spec file stating "  i changed the spec layout from %foo
into %{foo} to be as a reference point, " and then in the same mail i
read "for example in my specs locally i generally dont use

why this mail if you personnaly don't really care about the question ?
just because mikala wasn't agree with you ?

P.S: yeah i started to have enough now... ( too )

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