[Mageia-dev] Proposal: Deprecate draknetcenter+network init scripts after systemd becomes default.

[Maarten Vanraes]

Op dinsdag 23 augustus 2011 10:47:18 schreef Colin Guthrie:
> 'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 22/08/11 22:39 did gyre and gimble:
> > imho, the tools that are now available don't really work well together,
> > ie: if you use multiple of those tools, likely they don't show correct
> > status, etc...
> 
> So combining home-grown solutions with those integrated into the DEs
> (both GNOME and KDE are integrating with NM in a more complete way these
> days) is a way to solve this problem? I don't think so personally. I
> think we should very much embrace what the common consensus on other
> distros is and stop living in a little bubble. I appreciate the quality
> of the tools developed in the past but without someone really pushing
> them they are just going to stagnate. It's a real shame as these tools
> were best of bread - really easy to use and looked good, but this has
> changed now. NM is much nicer to use these days and has been properly
> integrated into the DEs.

well, imho, the last time i tried NM it didn't work and net_applet did.

> > personally, i've used net_applet always and i would like to keep this.
> 
> Sure, if it's patched to integrate into GNOME shell as nicely as NM then
> I'd say it's an option. If it provides the same DBus interfaces that NM
> does (or will) support such that applications can tell what type of
> connection you are on (i.e. to enable features such as not downloading
> package updates on your expensive, metered 3G connection) then it's
> certainly possible to continue to support an alternative to NM. Who is
> actually going to do that work tho'? Considering the bug about breaking
> your wifi configuration (using WEP rather than the configured WPA2) has
> not been fixed[1] since before mga1 was out, I'm not confident that
> anyone is even looking into the actual bugs here let alone adding new
> features. I feel we have to be some what practical about resources here
> and if we are going to work on features do it in a way that benefits the
> wider community - i.e. by contributing to NM, not just playing catch up.

i don't care about gnome shell or gnome 3 or whichever. for me net_applet is 
the best one yet and i don't have this WPA2 bug that you seem to speak of.

also, i need the openvpn functionalities of the net_applet. as long as NM 
doesn't provide everything and is welltested, i'm not sure it should replace 
something that's been very long working like the net_applet.

allthough i'm sure net_applet could be improved, sure.

personally i'd like an applet that shows up multiple times for each connection 
one with a different icon, so it's nicely visible and you can shut down 
whichever you want.

> Col
> 
> 1. https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1263 I had to manually edit
> wpa_supplicant.conf several times when at the Desktop Summit and WLAN
> hopping after using the GUI - it's not exactly a shining example of good
> integration.

yes, but i'm using several different WPA2 connections, and i configured them 
once and now if i'm at that particular location, it works...