[Mageia-dev] [135989]

mmodem00 at gmail.com
Tue Aug 30 04:21:12 CEST 2011

2011/8/29 John Balcaen <mikala at mageia.org>:
> 2011/8/29  <root at mageia.org>:
>> Revision 135989 Author ze Date 2011-08-29 08:09:56 +0200 (Mon, 29 Aug 2011)
>> Log Message
>> - cmake its already builrequires by kde-macros
>> - this way we dont force building strictly  with OpenJDK
>> - remove clean section (done by default)
>> - simple way to list dirs
>> - set requires in devel package to release like hapens for restant packages
>> Modified Paths
>> cauldron/soprano/current/SPECS/soprano.spec
>> Modified: cauldron/soprano/current/SPECS/soprano.spec
>> ===================================================================
>> --- cauldron/soprano/current/SPECS/soprano.spec       2011-08-29 05:21:36 UTC (rev
>> 135988)
>> +++ cauldron/soprano/current/SPECS/soprano.spec       2011-08-29 06:09:56 UTC (rev
> [...]
>>  %if %with_java
>> -BuildRequires: java-rpmbuild
>> +BuildRequires: java-devel
>>  BuildRequires: chrpath
>>  %endif
> This is stupid.
>>  Conflicts: soprano-devel < 4:2.6.51-2
>>  Suggests: soprano-plugin-virtuoso = %{epoch}:%version
>> @@ -55,8 +52,8 @@
>>  %defattr(-,root,root)
>>  %_bindir/sopranocmd
>>  %_bindir/sopranod
>> -%dir %_datadir/soprano
>> -%_datadir/soprano/rules
>> +%dir %_datadir/soprano/
> I guess i forgot the the purpose of %dir so could you explain me the difference
> between %dir %datadir/soprano & %dir %datadir/soprano/ ?
> [...]
>> -Provides: libsoprano-devel = %{epoch}:%version-%release
>> -Requires: %libsoprano = %{epoch}:%version-%release
>> -Requires: %libsopranoclient = %{epoch}:%version-%release
>> -Requires: %libsopranoserver = %{epoch}:%version-%release
>> -Requires: %libsopranoindex = %{epoch}:%version-%release
>> -Requires: %name = %{epoch}:%version-%release
>> -Requires: %{name}-plugin-virtuoso = %{epoch}:%version-%release
>> -Requires: %{name}-plugin-redland = %{epoch}:%version-%release
>> +Provides: libsoprano-devel = %{epoch}:%version
>> +Requires: %libsoprano = %{epoch}:%version
>> +Requires: %libsopranoclient = %{epoch}:%version
>> +Requires: %libsopranoserver = %{epoch}:%version
>> +Requires: %libsopranoindex = %{epoch}:%version
>> +Requires: %name = %{epoch}:%version
>> +Requires: %{name}-plugin-virtuoso = %{epoch}:%version
>> +Requires: %{name}-plugin-redland = %{epoch}:%version
> It's quite different of what you wrote in the description...
> Here you set the requires to %version & not to %release...
> Also it's quite different how we create requires on library packages
> on other kde's related packages (since we're using
> %epoch:%version-%release)
> but since you already talk with yourself for this change i guess you
> can surely share the reason for this change.
> Well i don't care anymore i guess..

Yes the commit coment was incorrect, what i wanted to say was this:
- set requires in devel package to version like hapens for restant packages

Since all soprano packages have requires to version (except the devel
package), i just put the devel requires also to version, that way we
had soprano requires only to version.
See if we were really acting as a team then i would replade restant
soprano packages to have requires to release instead changing then to
version, but you with dmorgan have put me simply apart, so how could
you expect me to do things other way if you with dmorgan have simply
alienated me.

You were also who started doing all by own way, you didnt discuss with
me anychanges, for example the changes you made in wiki.
For example you add severall items to Golds section without discussing
any, they should be first added as proposals so that could be first
discussed in a meeing.
But for you theres no kde team, since you just do what it pleases you.
But now you should be even more pleased since now dmorgan in the kde
packaging policy wiki page have put that now in a PENDING status.

I know very well from where comes all that dmorgan animosityagainst
me, mem and dmorgan is the past have already had divergencies, so let
you know that this simply dodnt appear out of the blue, there are a
history regarding dmorgan and me.

Before dmorgan appear we were going ok, of course we had some
discussions but thats normal, but its not normal that without any
proper reason dmorgan did talked to me with some "tone" and

You even said that i would be happy if you left Mageia, and like i
answered in other thread you were too far from the truth, you are a
person that are always contributing, that put much effort to help
Mageia, and no one in his perfect mind would think was good to put
away some person with those capabilities.

Some of my latest commits were correct and simple (for eexamplein
kdelibs4), and they were reverted by dmorgan based in a rule that he
created, and that rule was simply put by him, without any discusion,
no one were asked about and i never agreed with it, he simply said
"and now i take my sysadmin hat..." and did it.

So from that point what would be the purpose to discuss any with you
since no one can diverge from you, when that happens dmorgan appears
and "takes his sysadmin hat..." and rises his tone saying i cant do
this or that.
Seamsn now you and dmorgan own kde.

Your behaviour has changed mainly from the day that misc attacked me
without knowing all facts, so from that point all that was being done
as team SIMPLY didsappeared, and you didnt even said nothing about
what dmorgan did, saying that my commits should be reviewed all by
you, that is abusive, and if remember correctly untill that day we act
as a team, and you be havior from that changed and severall times you
rised your tone just like that for almost nothing.

I always wanted that we could all could get along with each other, of
course we would have some discussions (thats normal, and its from
discussions that development grows), and from that we would reach
agreements and consensus about what to do or follow.

I think if we continued as a team without dmorgan interventions we
would continue in the right path for Mageia grow and stability.

And again i appeal that we can that we could have a meeting so that
all could be discussed and defined, so that now we should act as a
whole without any frictions.
Like i satated im not here to fight or bash no one, but to act as a
part of a whole.

Yesterday i was about to remove me completly from Mageia, since i dont
want to be in a place where someone can have abusice behaviours and no
appears to regulate that sittuation.
Mikala mayve this was your wish, since what have been happening its
far from a community behaviour and you may see that im very different
from Fwang, some that you have referred severall tmes that he changes
things without discussing any, thing that i did used to do as a team,
but my latest commit was something i did to see at what point things
would go, and again i can see dmorgan can do everything he wants like
now put me as a pending status regarding the kde team.


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