[Mageia-dev] proposal regarding (packager) mentoring program coordinator

Samuel Verschelde stormi at laposte.net
Sat Jul 2 01:11:29 CEST 2011


Le samedi 2 juillet 2011 01:07:00, Samuel Verschelde a écrit :
> Le vendredi 1 juillet 2011 22:49:29, andre999 a écrit :
> > nicolas vigier a écrit :
> > > On Fri, 01 Jul 2011, andre999 wrote:
> > >>>> We would like to have an email address for the team, which would
> > >>>> direct messages to all team members.
> > >>>> It could be mentoring at mageia.org or similar (suggested by Daniel).
> > >>> 
> > >>> We keep @mageia.org for real persons. The usual way to have a group
> > >>> mail is something along foo at group.mageia.org, and this requires a
> > >>> ldap group. ( which in turn requires 1) identity account 2) a list
> > >>> of person, and someone to manage the group )
> > >> 
> > >> Would something like coord at pmentoring.mageia.org be Ok ?
> > > 
> > > No, foo at group.mageia.org with foo replaced by the group name.
> > > 
> > >> Presumably I would manage the group, which would include at least
> > >> magnus + Daniel. So who should I talk to about setting it up ?
> > >> Would I be able to add new persons myself, or would I have to request
> > >> it ?
> > > 
> > > What would be the use of this group and alias ?
> > > Shouldn't most discussions be public, so on a mailing list ?
> > 
> > This would be for potential packager apprentices or others to easily
> > contact all members the mentoring coordinator team.
> > So one of us can respond quickly, mostly to update our packages_mentoring
> > wiki page.  (Which will be ready in the next few days.)
> > We could also use it to discuss among ourselves, which we now do by
> > private email. So it wouldn't be of general interest.  We wouldn't want
> > those outside our group responding to messages received, like in a
> > public mailing list.
> > (The group might include a few outside our team.)
> > (It could include mentors, but they will see useful info on our wiki
> > page.) A restricted-access mailing list should work.
> 
> I don't think there's a need for restricted access, and it would be
> opposite to the way we try to do everything in the open.
> 
> What you need is
> 1) a way to be contacted directly by those who need (apprentices)
> 2) a way to discuss within members of the team, but maybe other people too
> if some want to join the discussion
> 
> For 1), I think your @mageia.org address once you will get one is
> sufficient. It's only one means of communication among others (MLs,
> forums, wiki), so I don't think a group is necessarily needed for that.
> You can still forward requests you can't handle yourself.

That being said, I have nothing against the use of a group for that, but only 
as a contact e-mail, not for discussion, or only for sensitive discussion 
about specific persons.

> 
> For 2), I don't know what is better :
> - use an existing mailing list
> - create a new one
> 
> I think you must try to use direct e-mail among you only when there's a
> good reason to avoid public discussion. Saying that it's not of general
> interest is not a good enough reason, I think. Do you have other reasons
> for wanting a private mailing list ?
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Samuel Verschelde


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