[Mageia-dev] [RFC] prefer dma rather than postfix in prefer.vendor.list for msec mga1 -> mga2 upgrade

Florian Hubold doktor5000 at arcor.de
Wed Nov 9 22:36:12 CET 2011

Am 09.11.2011 21:41, schrieb Anssi Hannula:
> On 09.11.2011 22:34, Florian Hubold wrote:
>> Am 09.11.2011 20:48, schrieb Michael Scherer:
>>> Le mercredi 09 novembre 2011 à 19:38 +0100, Florian Hubold a écrit :
>>>> Hi there,
>>>> as Anssi made me aware msec currently has a Requires on
>>>> sendmail-command for cauldron, this was the outcome of the
>>>> last discussion about msec / MTA.
>>>> However, currently in /etc/urpmi/prefer.vendor.list postfix
>>>> is preferred as sendmail-command and mail-server.
>>>> Anssi's vote and mine is to replace preference on postfix
>>>> with dma to ensure users get dma installed with the
>>>> upgrade from Mageia 1 ->   2 and not postfix which needs
>>>> configuration.
>>> What configuration ?
>>> AFAIK, Postfix work out of the box for the use case of msec/cron, mail
>>> sent to root are delivered to root mailbox, unless someone added a
>>> aliase.
>>>>  From a quick look at dma, it behave the same ( ie, it take aliase from
>>> the same file, thus requiring the same configuration, or needing the
>>> same declaration of a smart host ).
>>> Wouldn't it be better to send everything to /var/log if no mta are
>>> found ?
>>> ( ie, do something like that :
>>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NoMTA ). We have the proper
>>> version of cronie ( I hope ), so what prevent us ?
>> msec already sends everything also to /var/log, which was disregarded
>> in last discussion because normal users don't look there and it
>> slowly adds up on diskspace.
> Normal users also do not read local mailboxes and the mailboxes slowly
> add up on diskspace.
Well, normal users requested this.

Still this doesn't answer what to do about the migration mga1->2,
which you asked about on IRC. So what do we do about it?

Your opinion seems we should remove sendmail-command
Require from msec, and let it only write to /var/log/security
and not do anything as it was before?

Then i wonder why we had the discussion about msec
and MTA in the first place.

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