[Mageia-dev] Removal of non-free firmware from core section
andre999
andre999mga at laposte.net
Thu Nov 10 16:02:58 CET 2011
xi a écrit :
> Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
>> 2011/11/10 Frank Griffin <ftg at roadrunner.com>:
>>> On 11/10/2011 02:25 AM, Johnny A. Solbu wrote:
>>>> In other words, you would prefer to have non-free drivers to remain
>>>> in the
>>>> "core" tree because otherwise some hardware may not work? (Did i
>>>> understand
>>>> you correctly?)
>>> If we're going to have core and non-free to begin with, then
>>> non-free stuff
>>> shouldn't be in core. That being said, it isn't the problem here. The
>>> problem is that non-free isn't as available as core. It should be,
>>> based on
>>> prompting the user during install. Those who want a totally free
>>> system
>>> that lacks non-free functionality just have to say no.
>>>
>>> If it makes a philosophical difference, then have no default and
>>> require the
>>> user to explicitly answer yes or no, and get treated accordingly.
>>> Putting
>>> non-free stuff in core is an attempted solution to the problem that
>>> enabling
>>> and using non-free in an installed core-only system is much more
>>> complicated
>>> than it ought to be. By the time a user boots his installed system,
>>> non-free stuff should already be there if he wants it there.
>>
>> By the time a user boots his installed system he either has the online
>> repositories already set (after install from liveCD) or is just a
>> mouse click away from setting them. When the online repos are set the
>> non-free repo is available if the user wants to have it.
>>
> What about if I don't have internet access ?
>
> (Typically, in my company, we provided Mandriva DVD for customer with
> no internet connection. There were able to get a working system
> without any additional trick).
>
> Maybe I misunderstood the problem (if so, sorry) :
> If it is just a matter of asking to user whether or not he wants to
> install non free firmware, then just go! But if the user with no
> internet access is stuck because of firmware absence, then that's just
> stupid!
>
> Xavier
>
+1
free software is supposed to be about not taking away freedoms ...
--
André
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