[Mageia-dev] (second attempt) suggesting sectool be dropped

Michael scherer misc at zarb.org
Thu Nov 17 11:26:12 CET 2011

On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 11:39:29AM +0100, Florian Hubold wrote:
> Am 15.11.2011 07:29, schrieb Michael Scherer:
> > Le lundi 14 novembre 2011 à 22:09 -0800, Robert M. Riches Jr. a écrit :
> >> (New list subscriber...needed to fix registered email address to post...)
> >>
> >> I was asked to submit this suggestion to the mailing list:
> >>
> >> As a Mageia user, I believe msec was much better off with_OUT_
> >> sectool.  In its present state, sectool is BADLY broken.  It
> >> whines for pages about file permissions that are exactly as they
> >> should be. 
> > Can you be more specific ?
> It think he means this: https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2808
> or https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2255#c21 or
> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2255#c22
> I've also become supportive of this, sectool is basically duplicating
> partly msec functionality, there was no adaption for Mageia, currently it's
> checking on Mageia with the upstream Fedora configuration.
> Honestly this should have been done when importing it, as
> tmb already mentioned. msec should be patched to not require it.
> When we can't even get our default security tool to work properly,
> what's the point in adding a second one which needs even more
> maintenance?

As you say, the question is again "why was it uploaded in the first place".
It seems some packages were uploaded, and there seemed to have not enough
tests. While that's hard or impossible to avoid totally, that's not really 
the way to achieve a good distribution :/

I neither use msec or sectool, so I personnaly do not care that much.
Afaik, sectool was created by a ex mandriva/mandrake guy ( vincent danen ), 
because he was ( rightfully ) wanting to rewrite  msec, who is/was 
a mess of bash + python + perl code ( and rather ugly code, afaik, last time
I took a look ), but if msec is supported, and sectool is not, then I guess
we could drop. However, I still think we should first attempt to collaborate
and fix it. ( ie, always have the reflex of "try to fix and collaborate" ).

Michael Scherer

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