[Mageia-dev] Drakx-net or NetworkManager for Mageia 2

Frank Griffin ftg at roadrunner.com
Tue Nov 22 14:04:13 CET 2011

On 11/21/2011 10:38 PM, Balcaen John wrote:
> Le mardi 22 novembre 2011 00:11:49, Frank Griffin a écrit :
>> Please understand that I have *never* modified any Mageia-installed NM
>> configuration file.
> Ok so in fact you did not follow my suggestion here
> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=865#c1 ?

You know very well I did, as documented in 
https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=865#c2 .

To be more precise, the problem originally occurred with configuration 
files as installed by Mageia, unmodified by me.  I was simply making the 
point that the problem scenario wasn't some custom arrangement that I 
might have screwed up.

> hum ?
> The only comment here was that :
> 1) ifcfg-mdv plugin was broken (&  now in fact dead in mageia 2+)
> 2) try ifcfg-rh to see if it's also affected  (
> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=865#c6 )
> you did not try arguing that the maintainer should report it upstream.
>   ( https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=865#c8 ) which is quite difficult if
> the maintainer (well in this case there is no maintainer so it's even more
> difficult) is not able to reproduce simply because for example he does not have
> the same wifi card. That's why i suggest you to report it upstream since you
> should be able to answer questions from upstream if needed.

This entire discussion makes it evident why I wasn't the best one to 
report it upstream.  Far more about how NM was introduced into Mageia 
has come out in this thread than was ever posted in the bugs I 
mentioned.  The googled references to other people having the problem 
were not hardware-specific, and didn't involve the hardware I was using, 
so the knowledge of whoever implemented NM in Mageia would be far more 
valuable to upstream than access to my hardware.   I posted detailed 
logs, and I would have been following the upstream bug in any case.

> 3) keyfile is not affected by the hostname bug in #865
> However when i suggested to switch to keyfile (on irc indeed not on mageia
> mailing list) instead of the ifcfg-rh plugin or (any others non native
> plugins) i was told that we need to support ifcfg (which is right indeed)
> So in summary we have a working plugin (keyfile) but we're not able to use it
> because we need to support ifcfg- files so we're stick with the redhat plugin
> for now until we found someone able to fix the missing functionnalities in this
> plugin.

This really is not about saying you (or anyone else) did anything wrong 
here.  I'm just making the point that Cauldron shouldn't be a one-way 
street.  When something gets dropped in and has serious enough problems, 
and the situation (for whatever reason) prevents us from being able to 
fix it, then the appropriate thing to do is withdraw it until we can.

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