[Mageia-dev] Blogdrake repository for Mageia

[Joaquin Mandriva]

This package is in:

ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/SRPMS/faac-1.28-1bdk.mga1.src.rpm

You can find a list with this package and much more in:
ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/incoming/MGA/joaquin/mageia.txt

Regards.

2011/10/17 Philippe DIDIER <philippedidier at laposte.net>

> andre999 a écrit :
> > Philippe DIDIER a écrit :
> >> Philippe DIDIER a écrit :
> >>
> >>> Joaquin Mandriva a écrit :
> >>>
> >>>> Hello!
> >>>>
> >>>> My name is Joaquin, belonging to http://blogdrake.net
> >>>> <http://blogdrake.net/>  team. I am
> >>>> writing to you because I would like to let you know that we have
> >>>> created a repository with a big amount of good programs for Mageia.
> >>>> Our final target is to upload all of them to the official Mageia's
> >>>> repositories.
> >>>>
> >>>> We are currently uploading all these packages to the Mageia's BS step
> >>>> by step, because there are few people of us to do so. Also, also we
> >>>> don't have too much time because we also take care of Blogdrake,
> >>>> Mageia's news and the translations English to Spanish.
> >>>>
> >>>> Meanwhile, you can use and enjoy our repository in this way:
> >>>>
> >>>> urpmi.addmedia --wget --distrib
> >>>> ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/i586
> >>>>
> >>>> The x86_64 repository is not finished yet, but you still can add it in
> >>>> this way:
> >>>>
> >>>> urpmi.addmedia --wget --distrib
> >>>> ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/x86_64
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers!
> >>>>
> >>> Hello
> >>> Thanks to you...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Just one thing to correct : your repos addresses are :
> >>> ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/free/i586/
> >>> ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/free/x86_64/
> >>>
> >>> nevertheless I could surf through your repos :
> >>> Some of the rpms you propose reply to rpm requests already done or that
> >>> I was going to write (reading my thoughts ?)
> >>>
> >>> :)
> >>>
> >>> First thing I must say : it's a very good idea to upload these packages
> >>> to the BS and join the packagers team instead of providing third party
> >>> repos that will soon create compatibility problems (as in the past for
> >>> Mandrake and Mandriva with Thac's or MIB or others)
> >>>
> >>> The second thing is : before uploading them you will have to be careful
> >>> with the repos policy (core tainted non-free)
> >>> In your own repo, there is a problematic package : faac (and libfaac0
> >>> libfaac-devel) which is both non-free and tainted ...
> >>> After long dicussions on the mailing list a meeting decision was not to
> >>> provide it at the moment (nor the packages built with it...)
> >>> If a non-free-&-tainted repo is created for Mageia2, in the future, it
> >>> will be then allowed ... wait and see !
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >> I was thinking about a workaround to the problem of "non-free_&_tainted"
> >> rpms in Mageia
> >>
> >> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2833
> >>
> >> Some multimedia programs can't correctly handle files containing aac
> >> sound (*.aac *.mp4 *.m4a) because faac and faac-devel are not provided.
> >> And that's really missing !!!
> >>
> >>
> >> They can't and won't be backported to Mageia1 official repos...
> >>
> >> Perhaps a new "non-free&  tainted" repo will exist for Mageia2
> >>
> >>
> >> Actually for Mageia1 Blogdrake might provide a third repo for this dozen
> >> of srpms (even if the existence of third repo is not riskless)
> >>
> >> Picking their last spec file from Mageia, and modifying the plf or
> >> tainted conditionnal building options to allow building with
> >> faac-devel... wouldn't be too much difficult and wouldn't bring much
> >> compatibility problems
> >>
> >> If the version number is the same as in mageia repos, a "twisted"
> >> distsuffix would allow to "update" to them from core or tainted version
> >> (the same way as "tainted" distsuffix allows to update from a core
> >> release)
> >> and wouldn't prevent to update to a core or tainted new version later if
> >> provided in official updates repo
> >>
> >>
> >> But... there's the :
> >> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2317
> >> would it add other problems to this ?
> >>
> >> But too there wouldn't exist QA for them
> >>
> >> What do you think (on Mageia side and on Blogdrake side) ?
> >>
> >
> > A personal POV from the Mageia side --
> > It could be a good way to evaluate the need for a Nonfree+Tainted repo,
> > as well as providing a ready source for those interested in such
> packages.
> >
> > Maybe another approach could be to try to separate nonfree and tainted
> > parts, so that either
> > - nonfree packages could optionally use "tainted" packages if installed,
> or
> > - "tainted" packages could optionally use nonfree packages if installed,
> > each in their respective current repos.
> > Which won't work if a particular component is necessarily both nonfree
> > and "tainted".
> That's the problem : we have already tainted packages ... they have been
> built without faac-devel and don't require faac which is both tainted
> and non-free  :-(
> If they are built with faac the binaries become non-free (not LGPL) and
> stay tainted ... (they can't be splitted in parts)
> it's true for avidemux, mencoder, handbrake, audiokonverter, and some
> others (the list is in the bug report
> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2833)
>  it's an aporia !
> I don't want to argue again about the decision for the Mageia's repos !
> only need to find a way to get working binaries for my purpose... and I
> think I'm not alone to have to work with a quasi standard for multimedia
> files on internet.
> plf allowed that for Mandriva ...
> no third repo allows this for Mageia
> If I'm alone, never mind, I know how to build my own (two lines to
> modify in a spec file and => rpmbuild -ba  ... that's all folks! )
> If newcomers try Mageia and has to be taught how to build a rpm, they
> better will use debian or fedora or ubuntu or opensuse that have quasi
> official third repos for this problem...
>
> >
> > my 2 cents :-)
> >
> my 2 λεπτες
>
>
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