[Mageia-dev] Opening backports (was Re: [Mageia-sysadm] Using SQL database for youri)

Samuel Verschelde stormi at laposte.net
Thu Sep 29 21:10:42 CEST 2011


Le jeudi 29 septembre 2011 20:55:43, Florian Hubold a écrit :
> Am 29.09.2011 14:13, schrieb Olav Vitters:
> > On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:24:56AM +0200, Samuel Verschelde wrote:
> >> backports_testing, but it means that we would lose the current checking
> >> that updates come from the 1/updates branch)
> > 
> > Long term I prefer more checks because I do make mistakes. But maybe lax
> > as a temporary ("a few weeks") solution until it uses the SQL database?
> 
> Well, is it really that necessary for a matter of some weeks to speed up
> backports opening? Shouldn't we care first that sustainability of Mageia
> is ensured first?
> 
> It's not like backports candidates will lessen workload on QA, rather the
> opposite. That's my personal opinion.

Some genuine user needs can only be covered by backports per our policy, I 
don't see why we should wait more (already 4 months since the release of 
Mageia 1). QA team already said it's ready to test backports, and if we have 
difficulty we simply will find means to get more testers. Also, updates will 
still remain the priority. 

Opening backports media does not mean that we will start backporting 
everything. But a policy has been chosen, after a loooooooooong debate, and 
there seems to be a simple way to open those media to package submitting.

Also, the sooner we have backports, the less there will be external third-
party repos with all the problems (upgrade, support) that causes. There 
already are, don't let them too much space and rather invite their packagers 
to backport *inside* (as long as they stay within the policy of course).

About Mageia's sustainability, we already are working to that (QA team is 
operational, package adoption campaign is undergoing...), and having backports 
media won't prevent us from continuing. 

Also, the "few weeks" is a really vague estimation, my guess is it risks to be  
rather months because sysadmins seem to have a big TODO list a little 
resources. That's why I'm proposing 2 "technically simple" ways to move 
forward.

Best regards

Samuel Verschelde


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