[Mageia-dev] [changelog] cauldron core/release sound-scripts-0.61-2.mga2

[Maarten Vanraes]

> On 19 September 2011 11:44, Colin Guthrie <mageia at colin.guthr.ie> wrote:
>>>> Did you fixed the war against webcam another way?
>>>
>>> Is this a problem of webcam mics not working if they are present during
>>> boot? If not, can you remember the problem better?
>>>
>>> If so, no I've not fixed, but will find an official way that we can
>>> submit upstream.
>>
>> Whoops, it seems this conversation went off list accidentally.
>>
>> TV clarified that the problem the snd-usb-audio modprobe rule solved was
>> that of webcams getting the card0 slot on boot and pushing the normal,
>> built in audio system to card1.
>>
>> As this problem attempts to resolve the underlying limitations of alsa
>> (not preserving the audio device order) in a generic way (specific
>> index= arguments could be added to your own specific hardware to solve
>> it also), and considering that device order really shouldn't matter when
>> PulseAudio is used (it has it's own built in system for determining the
>> "priority" of devices when a first boot with a new user is encountered
>> so that the correct defaults will be picked on first boot and there
>> after it's the user's choice), I'm not really inclined to attempt to fix
>> this "bug".
>>
>> If people feel super strongly about it I can look into it, but I think
>> it's really a matter of "tough love" for the non-PA case if it means we
>> have to put in lots of crazy work arounds like this.
>>
>> Opinions welcome.
>
> Not all people use PA.
> We even have options in draksound in order to disable it...
> Hence we must still support the case were PA isn't around...

can something be done with udev rules, like it happens with other types of
devices?