[Mageia-dev] please stop doing "bugs" for updating magia 1

[Buchan Milne]

On Wednesday, 11 January 2012 22:05:53 Antoine Pitrou wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 14:41:54 -0500
> Juan Luis Baptiste <juancho at mageia.org>
> 
> wrote:
> > As I said, when there's a bug report on mga, we start investigating
> > the problem and go and look at upstream for a bug report there for
> > *that* particular bug.
> 
> So let me repeat myself from two messages above (!):
> 
> “Just because someone doesn't file a bug against Mageia doesn't mean the
> bug doesn't bother anybody, because many users don't report upstream
> bugs to the distro's tracker.”

Why not?

IMHO, a user who experiences a bug has two effective paths they can follow to 
get a bugfix:

1)File a bug with the distribution, and have the distribution worry about 
reporting or fixing the bug and providing an update

2)File a bug upstream, when the bug is fixed uptream, file a bug with the 
distributor, referencing the upstream bug 

An approach that doens't include a bug filed with the distribution means the 
user doesn't really seem interested in receiving an update from the 
distribution.

If you just want every new piece of software as soon as possible, you should 
run Cauldron.

If you believe every bugfix-only-release from every piece of software should 
be pushed out by distributions, can you clarify:
1)Why users who are not affected by some obscure bug (e.g. typo in a man page 
they will never read) should be forced to download unnecessary packages (at 
high cost in some cases)
2)How you will identify all upstreams which have a good history of bugfix-only 
releases, and how you will automate the selection of these packages to go to 
updates, and how you will streamline this process through QA.

Anyway, you seem to be of the assumption that all the contributors to the 
distribution you are using have so much more time on their hands than you do, 
while in actual fact I believe almost all contributors are *very* contstrained 
on time. If you don't think it is worth your time to help out, why should we 
waste time (which could be used to ensure the next release has all bugfixes) 
on new bugfix releases we don't need?

Regards,
Buchan