[Mageia-dev] free software purity question
Steve Havelka
yoshi at q7.com
Thu Jul 19 05:11:04 CEST 2012
There is at least one fully free-software computer:
http://www.lemote.com/en/products/Notebook/2010/0310/112.html
This is the kind of computer Richard Stallman uses, as mentioned on
http://richard.stallman.usesthis.com/
On 07/18/2012 07:35 PM, blind Pete wrote:
> This is not supposed to be a troll, although I expect that some will
> interpret it as such. There are two parts; the first is how does this
> work, followed by some philosophical stuff. AFTER I get answers to the
> first part I want to make up my mind about the second part. Then you
> can flame.
>
> It appears that I don't know how things work.
>
> I prefer open source for a few reasons, but when it comes to
> motherboard BIOSes there is no real choice, so I just hope
> that the manufacturers are competent and trustworthy. What is
> the story with CPUs and video cards?
>
> My attitude to non-free firmware is in flux. At the moment
> I am annoyed by it, but accept it as a fact of life and just
> install it.
>
> In the olden days CPUs and graphics cards were hard wired. If they
> didn't work you had to throw them out, change the masks and
> manufacture new ones. Remember the Pentium division error?
> Modern devices are far too complex for that to work. They
> have code that is variously known as; firmware, CPU microcode,
> or a video BIOS.
>
> Now the bits that I don't know about...
>
> Does a modern CPU run *at all* without microcode? I assume that
> when you buy a CPU it has microcode in ROM on the chip.
> Then at powerup it copies the code from ROM to working memory
> where it is run until either powerdown or it is over written with
> a newer version of the same thing. Is that right?
>
> As I understand it, microcode is usually used to emulate CISC
> instructions on RISC hardware. Can a consumer tell the difference?
> Would the manufacturers tell us, even if we asked nicely?
> If we do know which instructions are run on hardware and which
> are run in microcode, does is change from one chip to the next?
> Can gcc be configured to only produce the subset of instructions
> that run on the hardware? There are a couple of references in
> man gcc, but they seem to refer to the PowerPC, not x86.
>
> Same problem with video cards. According to Wikipedia, since
> EGA hit the market in 1984, all video cards have their own BIOS.
>
> Is *possible* to run anything better than CGA without using
> closed source code? If you physically removed the chip
> containing the video BIOS from a video card would you even be
> able to look at the motherboard's BIOS?
>
> Is there any practical, or moral, difference between;
> downloading and installing the latest firmware on boot,
> downloading and flashing the video BIOS,
> flashing the video BIOS from a floppy that came with the video card,
> waiting until cards with a good BIOS get distributed before buying.
>
> Should a truly free distribution say; "detected a VGA video
> card and/or a Pentium II, refusing to install"?
>
> Is there any choice? An open source BIOS an arm chip and a
> text only display?
>
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