[Mageia-dev] The shiny new Control Center

Angelo Naselli anaselli at linux.it
Sun Sep 30 11:14:59 CEST 2012


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Hi Nicolas,
> i don't see the point of this rewrite. This have not been discussed
> a lot but i think that this is a lack of time. For me the prior
> thing to do would be to write a interactive::qt for mcc using
> perl-qt4 or perl-kde4

As you know i followed both ways, and i wasn't alone, i did it
with the help of Matteo (aka pasmatt).
The task you suggested was not that easy, we shared some code
Matteo wrote, but we could not reach any qt/kde working
interfaces. If you think that is the right way, and that was
discussed time ago in Mandriva also, why has no one reached
the goal? I think because it's not easy, code has been written
to work for gtk in mind for the most...

> I think  that if you want to write it in an other language this is
> more because you have not saw  that all our code is linked so you
> will double the code base,  the code to maintain, the possible
> bugs, etc etc.

No that is not true, we don't want to use another language
we just considered to have also "plugins" written in other languages.
They could be run as a single applications maybe, and also inside new
"mcc".

> you will upload it where ? you can use a github repo i think to
> make it public.
That is a possibility, yes. But if its goal is to be just a *mageia*
control center, well... why not to have it in *our* repository?

> yes but our libraries are in perl too don't forget this ( libDrakX
> ). In general i am not a big fan of mixing languages.
and only perl is, at the moment. Big goal is to get our things
integrated. But what we can re-use is in next goal, and i do hope
help of other contributors here...

> As mcc is in gplv2+ i think you have to stick with this licence (
> not 100% sure )
I think that's right, in such a case we won't have any problem in
(re)using existing software.

> libyui has been choosen w/o real discussions, i don't want you to
> loose you time if at final we don't choose it.
That is not true.
https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:UiAbstraction4mcc
(This page was last modified on 27 June 2012, at 22:22.)

What i recall clear is that this task was proposed a lot
of time in past, but nobody did it... Why blocking who
started working on it?

> better work would be to fix existing one and add new
> interactive::qt ( or qt4 ). And seeing the != between qt4 and qt5
> the port to qt5 will be a 'piece of cake'.
you know i tried and i also tried to be helped by someone
of our community, but as we're all busy in real life and
we cannot do all, and we focus on what we can really do,
i think Steven has chosen a right approach. He always
said it's not for mga3 most luckily mga4 ;)

Cheers,
	Angelo


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