[Mageia-discuss] A little attention please

[isadora]

Thanks Michael,

Understanding for your explanation.
But there is one issue which brought up a question.
You are writing "launch of the Mageia project since the start some months
ago".
Am i misunderstanding, or did i think the plans just were born some days
(weeks at the most) ago?

isadora

2010/9/20 Michael Scherer <misc at zarb.org>

> Hi,
>
> First, let me present myself. My name is Michael Scherer, and for those
> that do not already know me, I am a member of the Mandriva packaging
> community, and one of the 4 zarb.org admins. I am also involved in the
> launch of the Mageia project since the start some months ago.
>
> I just went back from FUDCON 2010 Zurich yesterday evening and I have
> been quite overhelmed by the amount of discussion that is going on at
> the moment, and I must confess that I feel more than stressed by
> everything that is going on, to the point I still didn't connect to irc
> yet.
>
> Of course, we are all happy of the tremendous support of the community,
> but more than 500 messages in 2 days is a little bit too much for me to
> digest, and so I would like to share a few points :
>
> - please try to avoid sending emails like "i would like to help to
> $FOO". While we are quite happy to see such mails, they are not very
> helpful at the moment since we have to sort everything, and we cannot
> accept help on $FOO yet. We have started to think about how we can
> manage this, and we will likely soon setup a temporary wiki so people
> can add their name ( likely tomorrow, once we have sorted the really
> urgent stuff ), but in the mean time, I think people should wait a
> little. I would also like to remind you that you can also wait for us to
> ask for help, ie once we will need it. Let's say someone want to
> translate the distribution in french. If you want to do it, do not say
> "I want to translate". Just wait until we have something to translate
> when we will ask for help, and then sent the email. Or add your name on
> the wiki once it will be set up and announced. By acting this way, we
> will be more efficient as we will not have to search back in the
> archives to see who offered what, and have less mails to read
> ( especially when we are very very busy ).
>
> - please try to not start long discussions about technical details
> ( like the thread about kernel-libre, about server component ). While of
> course we need to have technical discussions as every technical project,
> I must remind everybody that we do have any kind of infrastructure for
> the moment, so this is a little bit early to start. And discussing it
> now when we have nothing to commit or anything is IMHO distracting us
> from our priorities, and a source of future frustration for people, as
> we shouldn't make any decision in a hurry.
>
> - please do not forget there is some priorities in setting up. As
> someone who boast of having non existant skills in website on his blog,
> I am quite delighted to see people are eager to do the work, but I think
> we should first have a server to host the website before discussing of
> the logo. And so one. The same goes for codename, flickr account or
> others. So will I am happy to see that people are doing stuff that I
> will never be able to do properly, I think they need to realize that we
> are not ready to get contributions yet, and so that it will take time,
> and waiting can be frustrating, so please cope with us.
>
> - in the same idea, while it is wonderful to see that people want to
> start user groups in various country, I must remind the harsh reality
> that we have nothing to use yet. So there is no hurry yet. If people are
> really interested, I think it would be wiser to plan a little bit more
> the creation of the and try to get information on what is needed to
> manage a community, by reading books like "The opensource way", or "the
> art of community". I have plenty of ressources on the subject for those
> that want it, and I think it can take some time to digest.
>
>
> and, as a more personal note, please do not register every possible
> variation of the domain name. One of the few problems we faced while
> searching for a name was that a good part of all names were already
> used. And we painfully discovered that good names are a scarce
> ressource. So in order to be good netizens, I think we should act
> responsibly, and let others people use names even if not related to the
> project.
>
> Now, I must be clea, I do not ask to people to stop all discussions, far
> from it. You can discuss everything you want, but I would like to remind
> everybody to think a little bit of those that will read all the emails
> ( like me ), and how much time this will cost to them. If I spend 1
> minute on every mail since the start ( as I need to get them from the
> web interface ), and since there was 520 mails in 2 days, this make 8
> hours to read everything properly ( without counting the 15 mails that
> appeared in the mean time.
>
> And while I will be reading this, I will not be setting the
> infrastructure or anything.
>
> Thanks for reading my boring mail and I hope to be back on you soon with
> more interesting news.
> --
> Michael Scherer
>
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