[Mageia-discuss] Mageia-discuss Digest, Vol 1, Issue 122
miodragz
miodragz at linuxo.org
Fri Sep 24 19:23:18 CEST 2010
I finish today translation on Serbian Mageia page :)
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> 1. Re: Chinese translation for Mageia's page (Funda Wang)
> 2. Re: Mandriva-se.org (Ahmad Samir)
> 3. Re: Artwork - Mageia Logo contest (Dubeau, Patrick)
> 4. Re: GUI tools (Ahmad Samir)
> 5. Re: Artwork - Mageia Logo contest (R James)
> 6. Re: GUI tools (Olivier Blin)
> 7. Re: Artwork - Mageia Logo contest (Michael Scherer)
> 8. Re: New name for cooker (Maurice Batey)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 23:14:11 +0800
> From: Funda Wang <fundawang at gmail.com>
> To: Mageia general discussions <mageia-discuss at mageia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Chinese translation for Mageia's page
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> 2010?9?23? ??11:06?Kira <elegant.pegasus at gmail.com> ???
> > ? Thu, 23 Sep 2010 22:02:18 +0800, Fred James <fredjame at fredjame.cnc.net>??:
> > I had also tried to translate the text. In Chinese there's really no words
> > match up with the meaning of fork in English. But, I think using the word
> > branch in Chinese: "??", would fit in the meaning in the text.
> Exact translation for "branch", but it won't fit the meaning of fork.
>
> Anyway, fork is a word we Chinese people rarely use, especially in IT
> field. For instance, China Mobile forked Android OS, and named it
> OPhone, but it said OPhone was developed by itself :(
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 18:43:14 +0300
> From: Ahmad Samir <ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com>
> To: david at ngweb.se, Mageia general discussions
> <mageia-discuss at mageia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Mandriva-se.org
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> On 19 September 2010 19:14, David V. Wallin <david at ngweb.se> wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I'm the force behind the Swedish Mandriva Community
> > (http://mandriva-se.org) which has grown quite fast since we started the
> > site 619 days ago. The other day some of the users announced that they
> > were moving from Mandriva to Linux Mint since the future of Mandriva is
> > so uncertain. A day or two later someone announced that they found
> > Mageia and that they were hoping to continue using Mandriva but in the
> > form of Mageia.
> >
> > Because of this i've published a poll about weither to migrate
> > Mandriva-se.org to Mageia-se.org or to just start Mageia-se.org as a new
> > website meant to act as the Swedish community-site for Mageia.
> >
> > No matter which alternative the users pick there will be a Mageia-se.org
> > so that Swedish users can discuss Mageia.
> >
> > I therefor ask to be put on the list on your website so that the users
> > of Mandriva-se.org can see that i'm serious in supporting this new
> > Mandriva fork and that they can feel comfortable in switching from
> > Mandriva to Mageia when it gets ready for that.
> >
> > --
> >
> > ---
> > David V. Wallin
> > +46 (0)8 41 00 39 82
> > david at ngweb.se
> > http://www.ngweb.se
> >
> >
> > ---
> >
> > Vi f?rs?ker st?ndigt f?rb?ttra oss och ber er d?rf?r om 1 minut f?r att
> > l?mna ditt omd?mme:
> > http://responsio.se/foretag/stockholm-next-generation-web/david-v-wallin/http://responsio.se/foretag/stockholm-next-generation-web/david-v-wallin/
> >
>
> Excellent news!
>
> Please add your name and http://mandriva-se.org to this list:
> http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=forums
>
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>
>
>
> --
> Ahmad Samir
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:33:58 -0400
> From: "Dubeau, Patrick" <Patrick.Dubeau at ccq.org>
> To: "Mageia general discussions" <mageia-discuss at mageia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
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> De?: mageia-discuss-bounces at mageia.org
> [mailto:mageia-discuss-bounces at mageia.org] De la part de Mihai Dobrescu
> Envoy??: 23 septembre 2010 08:13
> ?: Mageia general discussions
> Objet?: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
>
> Indeed, a relation to the Mandriva is desirable to be avoided, IMHO. Not
> because I hate or even dislike Mandriva. Just something fresh is needed. This
> is, I guess, one of the success components of re-branding in the life of any
> product.
>
> I have not enough skills to draw (I will try though), but I propose some
> logos, based on Mageia's meaning, but a bit derived:
> - a black cat (+ some black stars instead of eyes' pupils, alternately)
> - cat's eye or eyes (+ some black stars instead of eyes' pupils, alternately)
> - an owl ((+ some black stars instead of eyes' pupils, alternately)
> - any of these above in the Moon (on the Moon's horn)
> - an orb (my preferred) (in Edgar Allan Poe's stories the orb is a link, like
> a screen - the monitor -, to other worlds ;) )
>
> What do you think?
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -------------------------------
> Hi all,
>
> Be careful. I think the logo should not be related to Halloween things.
>
> - Forget black cat
> - I'm not sure an Owl is a good idea
> - No magic wand for God's sake
>
>
> Patrick Dubeau (alias DaaX) - Webmaster MLO
> http://www.mandrivalinux-online.org
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 19:24:58 +0300
> From: Ahmad Samir <ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com>
> To: Mageia general discussions <mageia-discuss at mageia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
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> On 20 September 2010 01:14, Martial Saunois <martial.saunois at free.fr> wrote:
> > Le dimanche 19 septembre 2010 18:00:42, Maarten Vanraes a ?crit :
> >> i agree, they work, are great, and people know these to be good, we need a
> >> MCC with everything on it.
> >>
> >> some of those are a bit dated, and we could clean up some of the code, but
> >> i want to keep those.
> >
> > The integration of the current MCC with the desktop environment is not very
> > good.
> > I would like to use Qt tools for my Kde, and Gtk tools for my Gnome.
>
> That might double maintainer(s) workload maintaining two different GUI
> frontends....
>
> > _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
> --
> Ahmad Samir
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:25:11 -0500
> From: R James <upsnag2 at gmail.com>
> To: Mageia general discussions <mageia-discuss at mageia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
> Message-ID:
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>
> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Dubeau, Patrick
> <Patrick.Dubeau at ccq.org> wrote:
> > De?: mageia-discuss-bounces at mageia.org
> > [mailto:mageia-discuss-bounces at mageia.org] De la part de Mihai Dobrescu
> > Envoy??: 23 septembre 2010 08:13
> > ??: Mageia general discussions
> > Objet?: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
> >
> > Indeed, a relation to the Mandriva is desirable to be avoided, IMHO. Not
> > because I hate or even dislike Mandriva. Just something fresh is needed. This
> > is, I guess, one of the success components of re-branding in the life of any
> > product.
> >
> > I have not enough skills to draw (I will try though), but I propose some
> > logos, based on Mageia's meaning, but a bit derived:
> > - a black cat (+ some black stars instead of eyes' pupils, alternately)
> > - cat's eye or eyes (+ some black stars instead of eyes' pupils, alternately)
> > - an owl ((+ some black stars instead of eyes' pupils, alternately)
> > - any of these above in the Moon (on the Moon's horn)
> > - an orb (my preferred) (in Edgar Allan Poe's stories the orb is a link, like
> > a screen - the monitor -, to other worlds ;) )
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > -------------------------------
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Be careful. I think the logo should not be related to Halloween things.
> >
> > - Forget black cat
> > - I'm not sure an Owl is a good idea
> > - No magic wand for God's sake
> >
> >
> > Patrick Dubeau (alias DaaX) - Webmaster MLO
> > http://www.mandrivalinux-online.org
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Mageia-discuss mailing list
> > Mageia-discuss at mageia.org
> > https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss
>
> And definitely forget about black stars instead of eyes' pupils:
>
> http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/639
>
> That image still give me nightmares. ;o)
>
>
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>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 18:43:32 +0200
> From: Olivier Blin <mageia at blino.org>
> To: Mageia general discussions <mageia-discuss at mageia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] GUI tools
> Message-ID: <m3r5gkxvez.fsf at euphor.blino.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Ahmad Samir <ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com> writes:
>
> > On 20 September 2010 01:14, Martial Saunois <martial.saunois at free.fr> wrote:
> >> Le dimanche 19 septembre 2010 18:00:42, Maarten Vanraes a ?crit :
> >>> i agree, they work, are great, and people know these to be good, we need a
> >>> MCC with everything on it.
> >>>
> >>> some of those are a bit dated, and we could clean up some of the code, but
> >>> i want to keep those.
> >>
> >> The integration of the current MCC with the desktop environment is not very
> >> good.
> >> I would like to use Qt tools for my Kde, and Gtk tools for my Gnome.
> >
> > That might double maintainer(s) workload maintaining two different GUI
> > frontends....
>
> They don't have to be different, a lot of drakxtools use the "interactive"
> module to build their interface, which can support curses, Gtk, or text
> output.
> A Qt backend for "interactive" would be doable, and it does not mean
> having a double maintainance effort.
>
> --
> Olivier Blin - blino
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 19:03:39 +0200
> From: Michael Scherer <misc at zarb.org>
> To: Mageia general discussions <mageia-discuss at mageia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Artwork - Mageia Logo contest
> Message-ID: <1285261419.14073.797.camel at akroma.ephaone.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Le jeudi 23 septembre 2010 ? 14:19 +0200, Thorsten van Lil a ?crit :
>
> > Decisions need to be made with regard to pallett and style. Graphic artists
> > and Marketing will need a style manual first before there is a decision
> > about the logo. To do that there needs to be an identifying of target market
> > because different pallets appeal to different demographics and engender
> > different reactions. We need to identify the sort of emotions we want to
> > engender in that target market.
>
> In fact, I would do quite the contrary. In order to test the process and
> organize the community, I would first do a test-run of the process and
> try to work on it.
>
> Later, once we are sure that the process is working, etc, etc, then we
> can rethink on the real logo.
>
> Ie, like we do prototyping for software, we should prototype the
> process.
> --
> Michael Scherer
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 18:12:12 +0100
> From: Maurice Batey <maurice at bcs.org.uk>
> To: mageia-discuss at mageia.org
> Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] New name for cooker
> Message-ID: <pan.2010.09.23.17.12.12.145294 at bcs.org.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 20:37:10 +0200, Farfouille wrote:
>
> > Cauldron is perfect !
>
> Genesis is even more perfect!
>
> --
> /\/\aurice
>
>
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