[Mageia-i18n] What was wrong with Transifex?

[lebarhon]

Le 01/04/2013 11:47, Yuri Chornoivan a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> Just some points below.
>
> Sun, 31 Mar 2013 23:52:08 +0300 було написано atilla ontas 
> <tarakbumba at gmail.com>:
>
>> Good night everyone. I was long gone previous year. Now back to work and
>> begin to contribute. I have missed the Transifex issue. As i read from
>> mailing list archives, the problem was our transifex installation and 
>> as i
>> see from bug reports there are few to maintain mageia transifex. So, we
>> abandoned Tx. But now there is no other web interface for i18n tasks.
>>
>> I' m Turkish coordinator of Transifex, Archlinux AUR translation 
>> projects
>> and contributor to others as well. I do not see issues for them those we
>> had with our tx, So, i want to ask; can't we use transifex.net 
>> instead of
>> installing and trying to maintain our tx? Is it hard or impossible?
>
> As a Fedora Ukrainian team coordinator I have to say that there is no 
> problems with tx.net instance from the translator side. It is just 
> problematic for developers. They constantly forget to do tx pull/tx 
> push in Fedora which leads to untranslated apps. Moreover, to be able 
> to run such commands it is necessary to have the last versions of tx 
> packages in Mageia. So we need a maintainer.
>
> To sum up:
>
> 1. Transifex cannot commit directly into SVN and Pootle can.
> 2. We have Friedel Wolff to help us with Pootle and no maintainer for 
> tx packages now.
> 3. Developers have not said anything about if they can or want to add 
> "tx pull" into Makefiles. So we first need to hear from them and the 
> Board to switch to tx.net.
>
>> I know, Pootle is an alternative but if we try to install it under
>> mageia.org domain and try to maintain it i think it would be hard. I 
>> mean,
>> few people to maintain and lack of time may be problem. What do you 
>> think?
>> Or i missed too much about this particular issue?
>
> So it is just a question on what packages will be maintained, Pootle 
> or Transifex. So it is again a question of maintainership.
>
>> Also, did Launchpad be considered for this?
>
> 1. Launchpad needs the whole project directly synced/hosted into 
> Bazaar in LP itself.
> 2. Launchpad needs the POTs to be build during general make cycle (now 
> they are updated/build by specialized Perl scripts).
> 3. Launchpad builds Debian-format packages only and Mageia is a Red 
> Hat-type distribution (RPM).
> 4. Launchpad does not allow direct downloading/uploading translation. 
> You have to wait for several hours just to download/upload a 
> translated file.
> 4. Launchpad Rosetta module is unmaintained (see the constant "Timed 
> out" errors that appears everywhere).
>
>> I think, at least our Turkish team needs such an interface. I was sole
>> Turkish translator for 4 years with Mandriva and it was a real pain.
>> Without such a web interface most people do not want to use svn, git 
>> etc.
>
> Ok. If we can find a maintainer for 
> Pootle/Transifex/Weblate/what-so-ever packages we can talk about web 
> translation. And if we (as a translation team) failed to do so, it is 
> better to leave things as is and do not push on the current 
> maintainers. They are already too overloaded.
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
> Best regards,
> Yuri
>
>
Thanks Yuri and Atilla, it 's clearer now.
Lebarhon