[Mageia-marketing] marcom + artwork + web => atelier ?

[Donald Stewart]

On 11 June 2012 11:01, Max Quarterpleen <bogusman222 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Romain d'Alverny <rdalverny at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>> On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Max Quarterpleen <bogusman222 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Romain d'Alverny <rdalverny at gmail.com>
>> >>  - this team is named "atelier";
>> >
>> > My French is a little rusty. Does that mean "workshop"?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> > Who came up with that name?
>>
>> Doesn't matter. It's just picked to have something.
>
>
> OK, sounds good.
>
>>
>>
>> > How is it pronounced?
>>
>> /a.tə.lje/ see http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/atelier
>>
>> > And why? (I personally was starting to like webartcom)
>>
>> webartcom is reductive - and ugly.
>>
>> >>  - a new mailing-list is open for that;
>> >
>> > Are all participants of -marcom, -web and -artwork automatically
>> > subscribed
>> > to this new list? What is the address? (So I can create a new mail
>> > filter)
>>
>> This list is not registered yet. All participants will have to
>> subscribe, an update message stating each former list being closed and
>> directions to subscribe to the new list will be sent.
>>
>> >>  - existing web, marcom and artwork lists are kept for archive, but
>> >> locked down and all subscribers are unsubscribed;
>> >
>> > When will this happen?
>>
>> As soon as 3 or 4 people can agree on a plan and there's no large
>> objection from others, and Council validates it. A good time would be
>> by the end of this week.
>
>
> Count me in. I don't know how much I'll be able to help, I've got a lot
> going in in meatspace now, but I really do want to see things moving along
> on this.
> What kind of plan do we need? (Maybe start that in a new thread?)
>
>>
>>
>> >>  - will have a say in whatever happens in this team, only those making
>> >> and contributing things (so here, actionable designs, working code,
>> >> graphics or copy, etc.); opinions and feedback from others still
>> >> welcome, but not enough to move forward;
>> >
>> > So, sort of a reward for participating? Interesting.... but might not
>> > work.
>>
>> Then what would you suggest that would work better?
>>
>> Here it's not a reward; it's a right, if you participate/make things
>> or if you're included by the team peers; and it's how it happens in
>> other teams (packagers, dev, sysadmin, qa, i18n, etc.
>
>
> Yes, I can see that. But part of the problem that we've had recently is with
> people not contributing.
> It's fine to say "If you contribute then you get a say in what happens" but
> if nobody is contributing....
> I can't really think of any alternative, since it is a very good way to do
> things.
> I'm just a little concerned about people not contributing.
>
>>
>>
>> >>  - external contributions are a true option; that is, one team peer
>> >> getting in touch/inviting a professional person [...]
>> >
>> > I think iamoverrated has already started doing this with a graphic
>> > designer.
>> > I'm not sure on the details, we've been playing IRC tag for a week or
>> > so...
>>
>> Oh, that's great then. That would be even greater that details (what
>> work, what scope, when, how, etc.) and progress are posted on this
>> list so that things are not wasted or duplicated in the end.
>>
>
> I'll ping him and see what he can tell us.
>
>>
>> >>  - formatting our resources so that one-shot contributions from
>> >> external people are made easier is a true option too (that means
>> >> things easier to grasp, understand and update);
>> >
>> > How?
>>
>> I don't know. At this time, I only can find GitHub's "fork and pull"
>> way very inspiring
>> (https://help.github.com/articles/using-pull-requests) + more
>> documentation on how/why things are as they are.
>>
>> >>  - no more meeting, we plan and do things, and update everyone through
>> >> the mailing-list (or other, but asynchronous); so being on IRC is not
>> >> a must, just good to have;
>> >
>> > Where will we be hanging out? New channel? One of the existing channels?
>>
>> We'll see. "No meeting" policy doesn't prevent from chatting, hopefully
>> :-p
>
>
> Indeed.
>
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I'll reply in full later, but for now I think that this is the best
choice that we have moving forward.