[Mageia-webteam] [Bug 1956] Can not edit posts in forum (after timeout)

Romain d'Alverny bugzilla-daemon at mageia.org
Wed Jun 29 15:34:07 CEST 2011


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--- Comment #7 from Romain d'Alverny <rdalverny at gmail.com> 2011-06-29 17:34:07 CEST ---
(In reply to comment #6)
> My impression of the council discussion (and the consequent decision) is
> that there was concern about everyone having a "warm and cuddly"
> feeling about Mageia (and each other)

Concern #1 was about the attitude, and indeed, how this would turn out for
everyone. Concern #2 was about the technical topic at hand, and a decision has
been reached, waiting to be fully implemented.

> and little or no consideration of the utility of the Forum as a research resource
> for users and of the fact that this limit can make life difficult for those people
> who spend time providing assistance to other users.

You have to distinguish the forum-as-a-discussion-place (where keeping posts in
their original form is crucial) and the forum-as-a-support/doc-tool-place
(where obsoleting/updating posts, with update timestamps is crucial as well).

Both have their own contingencies and may be best served by distinct platform
(the former is more in phpBB's original purpose, the latter more in an
equivalent to http://stackoverflow.com/ platform).

If those are to be served by the same platform, that makes several use cases to
satisfy. And here obviously, the forum was first thought as a discussion

So you may of course argue of the contrary, but arguing won't lead as far as
really giving a hand, joining the team and helping to better configure the
team, the platform, and if needed, a distinct platform.

Furthermore, arguing of one's experience with forum is not that much helpful -
some have satisfying experience with forums with no edit capacity, as that was
an expected behaviour. Some have contrary experiences because they expect
something  different. As said above, it comes down to what is the role of a
given platform and how expectations are met with it: discussion, sharing,
supporting, documenting (you have the wiki as well), other?

> The weakness of the council (when faced with a recalcitrant forum admin) I put
> down to the fact that everyone involved is still learning how to make this
> community-based structure work in practice. Hopefully, as the distro matures we
> will see the council showing a more decisive leadership.

I see no weakness here. The Council can expect from everyone, the capacity to
cool down, understand each others' views and collaborate constructively and
actively. What we came to is the possibility for everyone in the situation to
get something good out of the heat generated. Now, how it turns out is another
point, still to be written.

Not everything is in the hands of the Council (far from that). :-)

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