[Mageia-artwork] New wiki

Thorsten van Lil tvl83 at gmx.de
Wed Nov 9 16:26:21 CET 2011

Am 09.11.2011 15:44, schrieb Max Quarterpleen:
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Thorsten van Lil <tvl83 at gmx.de
> <mailto:tvl83 at gmx.de>> wrote:
>     Am 09.11.2011 14:49, schrieb Max Quarterpleen:
>         On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Romain d'Alverny
>         <rdalverny at gmail.com <mailto:rdalverny at gmail.com>
>         <mailto:rdalverny at gmail.com <mailto:rdalverny at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>             On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 22:57, Thorsten van Lil <tvl83 at gmx.de
>         <mailto:tvl83 at gmx.de>
>         <mailto:tvl83 at gmx.de <mailto:tvl83 at gmx.de>>> wrote:
>          > The question that came in my mind is: Do we need a list of team
>             members?
>          > What benefit has one of it, if he is listed?
>             Being a team _peer_ member is distinct than just attending.
>         I know it
>             may sound ludicrous or over-theorical, but this is important
>         to know
>             who gets a vote and who doesn't, in some situation (such as
>         electing
>             the leader, the deputy leader, and deciding on serious
>         issues if a
>             vote is needed). So, in this point of view, yes, having a
>         list of who
>             is a peer is important.
>             It's important too so that it can be written somewhere for write
>             accesses in some places (yes, the storage thing is lagging
>         behind), so
>             that we can roughly know how many people are involved (there's a
>             user/group web app in the works), etc.
>          > If it is just like the "Credits" in games/films, than it should
>             be those
>          > who send artworks/patches to mageia. But this is not really fair,
>          > because so many people spend time in discussing, bringing good
>             ideas or
>          > their opinions.
>             Credits are a distinct thing. For instance, Olivier Faurax
>         (for the
>             original design) and Alexn83 (for reworking it) have to be
>         in such a
>             list for the current logo (and if we are for an exact
>         changelog of it,
>             we can as well add Hélène, but that was an offline work).
>          > Naming everyone who is a active member of the list would be more
>             fair,
>          > but that would be round about 20 members.
>             As a reminder, being a peer means having been recognized by
>         other
>             peers. And as we did for other teams, this list has to be
>         bootstrapped
>             by the leader.
>         Hear that Thorsten? Let's see a list of peers.
>     If you ask me that politely  :)
>     On the quick, some proposals:
>     tumbeliina
>     dimosthenis
>     alexn83
>     Oliver Faurax
>     rda
>     ennael
>     dmorgen
>     trish
>     Oliver Burger
>     Max
>     Donald Steward
>     Zlatko
>     dtsiamasiotis
>     mikala
>     dams
>     TeaAge
>     Regards,
>     Thorsten
> Thank you :)
> Now, I still think of myself as the new guy, and this might be a good
> judge of who is active and who isn't: names I don't recognize. If I
> don't recognize the name, that means they haven't been active since
> early June.
> And those are:
> Zlatko
> dtsiamasiotis
> dimosthenis

Zlatko is a designer who responded on the call for designer on the blog. 
He told me he is reading the list. However he already did some work for 
mageia. Have a look at bug #261

dtsiamasiotis has attend to many meating. Also some you were attending 
He also was responsible for new icons for harddrake2.

Dimosthenis .... I'm not sure, to be honest. I put him to the list, but 
dtsiamasiotis was meant. So we can discard him I guess.

> Next, if I am not mistaken, rda and Oliver Burger are primarily not in
> the artwork team, they just do a little bit of everything :P So, do we
> put them in as well? And what about ennael? She REALLY does everything,
> but does she need to be listed as part of each and every team?
> And what about AlexN83? If I am not mistaken nobody has been able to
> make contact with him since before Mga1...

Well, who do want on the list? Everyone who played a part for the 
artwork team and is on the list. As rda pointed, those have a vote for 
representatives etc.
rda lead all meetings before I did and founded the artwork group. Oliver 
did a lot for the wiki especially in question of design and is actively 
part of a lot discussions around artwork.
AlexN83 could never be contact since mga1, as you said. But as we are 
still using his work and he is always welcome to came back, I would put 
him on the list.
Ennael ... a round the release of Mga1 she cared a lot of artwork and 
made sure we had a nice KDE menu icon (that has not come from the 
artwork team).


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