[Mageia-artwork] New wiki

Max Quarterpleen bogusman222 at gmail.com
Wed Nov 9 16:43:09 CET 2011

To be honest, I wasn't sure about dtsiamasiotis, the name did sound
familiar, just not familiar enough.
So, barring any objections, I will create a page in the new wiki with a
table, and that whole list of people (except for Dimosthenis).
The columns will be: IRC nick, forum nick, email, tasks/contributions. For
anybody whom I don't have any information in any cell I will leave blank,
and that can be filled in later. The table will be sorted alphabetically by
IRC nick.
Aside from that, Thorsten's contact information (his IRC nick) will be
available directly from the main artwork page.
For starters, I will only post IRC nicks and the tasks/contributions that I
know of, and anybody who wants more information about them should let me
know, either on-list or in a private email.

Now, what about the guidelines?

On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Thorsten van Lil <tvl83 at gmx.de> wrote:

> Am 09.11.2011 15:44, schrieb Max Quarterpleen:
>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Thorsten van Lil <tvl83 at gmx.de
>> <mailto:tvl83 at gmx.de>> wrote:
>>    Am 09.11.2011 14:49, schrieb Max Quarterpleen:
>>        On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Romain d'Alverny
>>        <rdalverny at gmail.com <mailto:rdalverny at gmail.com>
>>        <mailto:rdalverny at gmail.com <mailto:rdalverny at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>            On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 22:57, Thorsten van Lil <tvl83 at gmx.de
>>        <mailto:tvl83 at gmx.de>
>>        <mailto:tvl83 at gmx.de <mailto:tvl83 at gmx.de>>> wrote:
>>         > The question that came in my mind is: Do we need a list of team
>>            members?
>>         > What benefit has one of it, if he is listed?
>>            Being a team _peer_ member is distinct than just attending.
>>        I know it
>>            may sound ludicrous or over-theorical, but this is important
>>        to know
>>            who gets a vote and who doesn't, in some situation (such as
>>        electing
>>            the leader, the deputy leader, and deciding on serious
>>        issues if a
>>            vote is needed). So, in this point of view, yes, having a
>>        list of who
>>            is a peer is important.
>>            It's important too so that it can be written somewhere for
>> write
>>            accesses in some places (yes, the storage thing is lagging
>>        behind), so
>>            that we can roughly know how many people are involved (there's
>> a
>>            user/group web app in the works), etc.
>>         > If it is just like the "Credits" in games/films, than it should
>>            be those
>>         > who send artworks/patches to mageia. But this is not really
>> fair,
>>         > because so many people spend time in discussing, bringing good
>>            ideas or
>>         > their opinions.
>>            Credits are a distinct thing. For instance, Olivier Faurax
>>        (for the
>>            original design) and Alexn83 (for reworking it) have to be
>>        in such a
>>            list for the current logo (and if we are for an exact
>>        changelog of it,
>>            we can as well add Hélène, but that was an offline work).
>>         > Naming everyone who is a active member of the list would be more
>>            fair,
>>         > but that would be round about 20 members.
>>            As a reminder, being a peer means having been recognized by
>>        other
>>            peers. And as we did for other teams, this list has to be
>>        bootstrapped
>>            by the leader.
>>        Hear that Thorsten? Let's see a list of peers.
>>    If you ask me that politely  :)
>>    On the quick, some proposals:
>>    tumbeliina
>>    dimosthenis
>>    alexn83
>>    Oliver Faurax
>>    rda
>>    ennael
>>    dmorgen
>>    trish
>>    Oliver Burger
>>    Max
>>    Donald Steward
>>    Zlatko
>>    dtsiamasiotis
>>    mikala
>>    dams
>>    TeaAge
>>    Regards,
>>    Thorsten
>> Thank you :)
>> Now, I still think of myself as the new guy, and this might be a good
>> judge of who is active and who isn't: names I don't recognize. If I
>> don't recognize the name, that means they haven't been active since
>> early June.
>> And those are:
>> Zlatko
>> dtsiamasiotis
>> dimosthenis
> Zlatko is a designer who responded on the call for designer on the blog.
> He told me he is reading the list. However he already did some work for
> mageia. Have a look at bug #261
> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_**bug.cgi?id=261<https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=261>
> dtsiamasiotis has attend to many meating. Also some you were attending too
> (http://meetbot.mageia.org/**mageia-artwork/2011/mageia-**
> artwork.2011-07-06-17.11.html<http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-artwork/2011/mageia-artwork.2011-07-06-17.11.html>
> )**. He also was responsible for new icons for harddrake2.
> Dimosthenis .... I'm not sure, to be honest. I put him to the list, but
> dtsiamasiotis was meant. So we can discard him I guess.
>> Next, if I am not mistaken, rda and Oliver Burger are primarily not in
>> the artwork team, they just do a little bit of everything :P So, do we
>> put them in as well? And what about ennael? She REALLY does everything,
>> but does she need to be listed as part of each and every team?
>> And what about AlexN83? If I am not mistaken nobody has been able to
>> make contact with him since before Mga1...
> Well, who do want on the list? Everyone who played a part for the artwork
> team and is on the list. As rda pointed, those have a vote for
> representatives etc.
> rda lead all meetings before I did and founded the artwork group. Oliver
> did a lot for the wiki especially in question of design and is actively
> part of a lot discussions around artwork.
> AlexN83 could never be contact since mga1, as you said. But as we are
> still using his work and he is always welcome to came back, I would put him
> on the list.
> Ennael ... a round the release of Mga1 she cared a lot of artwork and made
> sure we had a nice KDE menu icon (that has not come from the artwork team).
> Thorsten
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