[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two

andre999 andr55 at laposte.net
Tue Nov 30 03:01:21 CET 2010


Michael Scherer a écrit :
> Le lundi 29 novembre 2010 à 14:28 +0100, Olivier Thauvin a écrit :
>    
>> * Thomas Backlund (tmb at iki.fi) wrote:
>>      
>>> Olivier Thauvin skrev 29.11.2010 03:06:
>>>        
>>>> * Thomas Backlund (tmb at iki.fi) wrote:
>>>> I can't agree with the "mirrors are free to not mirror this media",
>>>> three reasons:
>>>> 1) I don't see an easy and safe way for mirrors to exclude a media (a
>>>> directory + hdlist in media/media_info) in each distribution,
>>>>          
>>> Thats easy, just use --exclude-from
>>>
>>> On my local mirror I exclude the debug stuff
>>> so I use --exclude-from=excclude.lst
>>>
>>> # cat exclude.lst
>>> i586/media/*debug*
>>> i586/media/media_info/*debug*
>>> x86_64/media/*debug*
>>> x86_64/media/media_info/*debug*
>>>
>>> And thats all needed.
>>> We can even provide this exclude file ourselves on the mirrors so we
>>> know its correct and if we change the mirror layout, we update the file.
>>>        
>> Completly not realist on mirror admin side.
>>
>> You really have to remember that first mirror admin job is not maintains
>> mirrors. They have often hundred of users on their back waiting for
>> fixes.
>>
>> When such will go wrong, nobody will be able to check and fix.
>>      
> The issue is that we have 2 types of mirror admins :
>
> - there is some of them who are hobbyist/enthusiasts, that use their own
> server for that, and that mirror only one or 2 distros, and that may not
> do it for their job or as part of their job. I think for example
> Wolfgang would be in this category. They want to help us, but they may
> have slightly limited ressources. But they can have time to tweak the
> mirroring to fit what they can offer to us.
>
> - on the other end of the spectrum, we have people who manage lots of
> mirrors, with more bandwidth and bigger servers, more , but maybe not
> more time. Ie people that does it as part of their job, with the
> associate increase of ressources and work that come with a job.
>
> So admins that are more of the type 1 are likely ok with following
> lists, giving input, tweaking rsync scripts, etc. They are the one that
> could help us by giving stats or stuff like that, because they have the
> time. But that's also people who may have more trouble ( because of
> lesser ressources )
>
> Type 2 would prefer to not have too much to do because they may have
> better thing to do. Ideally, they set up and do not touch for the 10
> next year and that's ok.
>
> So we need to take in account this divide.
>    
Good points.
> We can't have just one type or the other, but in both case, a simpler
> mirroring process will benefit to everybody.
>
>    
- André


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