[Mageia-dev] Proposal: Deprecate draknetcenter+network init scripts after systemd becomes default.

[Michael Scherer]

Le mardi 23 août 2011 à 11:01 +0100, Colin Guthrie a écrit :
> 'Twas brillig, and Michael Scherer at 23/08/11 10:10 did gyre and gimble:
> > Le mardi 23 août 2011 à 09:30 +0100, Colin Guthrie a écrit :
> >> 'Twas brillig, and Michael scherer at 22/08/11 13:14 did gyre and gimble:
> >>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 08:44:01AM -0300, Balcaen John wrote:
> >>>> Le Monday 22 August 2011 12:57:23 Guillaume Rousse a écrit :
> >>>>> On 22/08/2011 11:57, Colin Guthrie wrote:
> >>>>>> I also have it on good authority that many of the features lacking
> >>>>>> in NetworkManager (such as bridging configuration) will be
> >>>>>> available in the not too distant future and many other more
> >>>>>> advanced networking features such as fast-start DHCP,
> >>>>>> per-interface DNS, 4-8's DNS fallback and several other nice
> >>>>>> features will ultimately be possible too.
> >>>>> While I don't care about configuration wizards, I do about
> >>>>> initscripts. How are you supposed to configure a server in some
> >>>>> automated manner without plain-old configuration files ?
> >>>> If i'm not wrong you can still drop plain text files in 
> >>>> /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/
> >>>
> >>> Provided you want to do nothing fancy like bridge, vlan and 
> >>> others stuff that are used by sysadmins. 
> >>
> >> As I said in my initial email, but was not clear. All of these things
> >> will be supported in a much nicer way in the near future.
> > 
> > But so far, this is not supported. And since we have said we do not
> > remove non systemd from Mageia 2
> > ( https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2011-July/006701.html ) ,
> > I think we cannot take systemd for granted before mageia 3. 
> 
> Yup, that's why I mentioned mageia 3 in my initial mail.

Oups, I misread :/

Then my answer is "we didn't even released 2, so let's keep discussion
about 3 for later"

( seriously, it didn't even occurs to me that we would start discussing
3 right now )

Personnaly, I think that would be good to have something better than
current initscripts and shell based approach for managing network
( since we already manage the network with ifplugd, having a daemon is
not a so big problem, and I am sure we could have a mode where the
daemon apply the configuration and then disappear, if that make people
less nervous ). But I would really make sure that people agree with the
change. I would rather avoid having the same type of discussion than on
fedora-devel 

-- 
Michael Scherer