[Mageia-dev] [RFC] prefer dma rather than postfix in prefer.vendor.list for msec mga1 -> mga2 upgrade

[Michael Scherer]

Le mercredi 09 novembre 2011 à 22:41 +0200, Anssi Hannula a écrit :
> On 09.11.2011 22:34, Florian Hubold wrote:
> > Am 09.11.2011 20:48, schrieb Michael Scherer:
> >> Le mercredi 09 novembre 2011 à 19:38 +0100, Florian Hubold a écrit :
> >>> Hi there,
> >>>
> >>> as Anssi made me aware msec currently has a Requires on
> >>> sendmail-command for cauldron, this was the outcome of the
> >>> last discussion about msec / MTA.
> >>> However, currently in /etc/urpmi/prefer.vendor.list postfix
> >>> is preferred as sendmail-command and mail-server.
> >>>
> >>> Anssi's vote and mine is to replace preference on postfix
> >>> with dma to ensure users get dma installed with the
> >>> upgrade from Mageia 1 ->  2 and not postfix which needs
> >>> configuration.
> >> What configuration ?
> >> AFAIK, Postfix work out of the box for the use case of msec/cron, mail
> >> sent to root are delivered to root mailbox, unless someone added a
> >> aliase.
> >>
> >> > From a quick look at dma, it behave the same ( ie, it take aliase from
> >> the same file, thus requiring the same configuration, or needing the
> >> same declaration of a smart host ).
> >>
> >> Wouldn't it be better to send everything to /var/log if no mta are
> >> found ?
> >> ( ie, do something like that :
> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NoMTA ). We have the proper
> >> version of cronie ( I hope ), so what prevent us ?
> >>
> > msec already sends everything also to /var/log, which was disregarded
> > in last discussion because normal users don't look there and it
> > slowly adds up on diskspace.
> 
> Normal users also do not read local mailboxes and the mailboxes slowly
> add up on diskspace.

And log files can be rotated, unlike mailboxes. Maybe the log are not
rotated on the other hand, so that's a bug that could/should be fixed,
if that's the case.

What we could do is either :
- install nothing by default
- install postfix/dma/whatever by a drakwizard if/when user give a email
for msec alert.

Maybe another solution would be to make msec smarter and not spew 100
lines per hours. I am all for msec but as I say often, this look like a
Homer Simpson invention. 

WDYT ?
-- 
Michael Scherer