[Mageia-dev] Blogdrake repository for Mageia

[Gonzalo Igartua]

Hi all,
we have libfaac already packaged

http://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/free/i586/

It's a dependence of cinelerra

Cheers

2011/10/17 Joaquin Mandriva <joaquinmandriva at gmail.com>

> This package is in:
>
> ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/SRPMS/faac-1.28-1bdk.mga1.src.rpm
>
> You can find a list with this package and much more in:
> ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/incoming/MGA/joaquin/mageia.txt
>
> Regards.
>
>
> 2011/10/17 Philippe DIDIER <philippedidier at laposte.net>
>
>> andre999 a écrit :
>> > Philippe DIDIER a écrit :
>> >> Philippe DIDIER a écrit :
>> >>
>> >>> Joaquin Mandriva a écrit :
>> >>>
>> >>>> Hello!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> My name is Joaquin, belonging to http://blogdrake.net
>> >>>> <http://blogdrake.net/>  team. I am
>> >>>> writing to you because I would like to let you know that we have
>> >>>> created a repository with a big amount of good programs for Mageia.
>> >>>> Our final target is to upload all of them to the official Mageia's
>> >>>> repositories.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> We are currently uploading all these packages to the Mageia's BS step
>> >>>> by step, because there are few people of us to do so. Also, also we
>> >>>> don't have too much time because we also take care of Blogdrake,
>> >>>> Mageia's news and the translations English to Spanish.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Meanwhile, you can use and enjoy our repository in this way:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> urpmi.addmedia --wget --distrib
>> >>>> ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/i586
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The x86_64 repository is not finished yet, but you still can add it
>> in
>> >>>> this way:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> urpmi.addmedia --wget --distrib
>> >>>> ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/x86_64
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Cheers!
>> >>>>
>> >>> Hello
>> >>> Thanks to you...
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Just one thing to correct : your repos addresses are :
>> >>> ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/free/i586/
>> >>> ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/free/x86_64/
>> >>>
>> >>> nevertheless I could surf through your repos :
>> >>> Some of the rpms you propose reply to rpm requests already done or
>> that
>> >>> I was going to write (reading my thoughts ?)
>> >>>
>> >>> :)
>> >>>
>> >>> First thing I must say : it's a very good idea to upload these
>> packages
>> >>> to the BS and join the packagers team instead of providing third party
>> >>> repos that will soon create compatibility problems (as in the past for
>> >>> Mandrake and Mandriva with Thac's or MIB or others)
>> >>>
>> >>> The second thing is : before uploading them you will have to be
>> careful
>> >>> with the repos policy (core tainted non-free)
>> >>> In your own repo, there is a problematic package : faac (and libfaac0
>> >>> libfaac-devel) which is both non-free and tainted ...
>> >>> After long dicussions on the mailing list a meeting decision was not
>> to
>> >>> provide it at the moment (nor the packages built with it...)
>> >>> If a non-free-&-tainted repo is created for Mageia2, in the future, it
>> >>> will be then allowed ... wait and see !
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >> I was thinking about a workaround to the problem of
>> "non-free_&_tainted"
>> >> rpms in Mageia
>> >>
>> >> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2833
>> >>
>> >> Some multimedia programs can't correctly handle files containing aac
>> >> sound (*.aac *.mp4 *.m4a) because faac and faac-devel are not provided.
>> >> And that's really missing !!!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> They can't and won't be backported to Mageia1 official repos...
>> >>
>> >> Perhaps a new "non-free&  tainted" repo will exist for Mageia2
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Actually for Mageia1 Blogdrake might provide a third repo for this
>> dozen
>> >> of srpms (even if the existence of third repo is not riskless)
>> >>
>> >> Picking their last spec file from Mageia, and modifying the plf or
>> >> tainted conditionnal building options to allow building with
>> >> faac-devel... wouldn't be too much difficult and wouldn't bring much
>> >> compatibility problems
>> >>
>> >> If the version number is the same as in mageia repos, a "twisted"
>> >> distsuffix would allow to "update" to them from core or tainted version
>> >> (the same way as "tainted" distsuffix allows to update from a core
>> >> release)
>> >> and wouldn't prevent to update to a core or tainted new version later
>> if
>> >> provided in official updates repo
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> But... there's the :
>> >> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2317
>> >> would it add other problems to this ?
>> >>
>> >> But too there wouldn't exist QA for them
>> >>
>> >> What do you think (on Mageia side and on Blogdrake side) ?
>> >>
>> >
>> > A personal POV from the Mageia side --
>> > It could be a good way to evaluate the need for a Nonfree+Tainted repo,
>> > as well as providing a ready source for those interested in such
>> packages.
>> >
>> > Maybe another approach could be to try to separate nonfree and tainted
>> > parts, so that either
>> > - nonfree packages could optionally use "tainted" packages if installed,
>> or
>> > - "tainted" packages could optionally use nonfree packages if installed,
>> > each in their respective current repos.
>> > Which won't work if a particular component is necessarily both nonfree
>> > and "tainted".
>> That's the problem : we have already tainted packages ... they have been
>> built without faac-devel and don't require faac which is both tainted
>> and non-free  :-(
>> If they are built with faac the binaries become non-free (not LGPL) and
>> stay tainted ... (they can't be splitted in parts)
>> it's true for avidemux, mencoder, handbrake, audiokonverter, and some
>> others (the list is in the bug report
>> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2833)
>>  it's an aporia !
>> I don't want to argue again about the decision for the Mageia's repos !
>> only need to find a way to get working binaries for my purpose... and I
>> think I'm not alone to have to work with a quasi standard for multimedia
>> files on internet.
>> plf allowed that for Mandriva ...
>> no third repo allows this for Mageia
>> If I'm alone, never mind, I know how to build my own (two lines to
>> modify in a spec file and => rpmbuild -ba  ... that's all folks! )
>> If newcomers try Mageia and has to be taught how to build a rpm, they
>> better will use debian or fedora or ubuntu or opensuse that have quasi
>> official third repos for this problem...
>>
>> >
>> > my 2 cents :-)
>> >
>> my 2 λεπτες
>>
>>
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