[Mageia-dev] Non-free firmwares in installer

Frank Griffin ftg at roadrunner.com
Fri Mar 25 13:04:38 CET 2011


This has really moved away from the question of providing 
drivers/firmware to a "pissing contest" about whose philosophy the 
default offerings should represent.

Presumably, FLOSS supporters are satisfied with the state of the current 
ISOs, and https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=523 would address 
extending install functionality without changing the content of the 
existing ISOs, which should be an improvement over where we are now 
without corrupting the FLOSS purity of the existing ISOs.

I think we should proceed with that approach, and leave the more 
controversial question of whether the ISOs should be merged for another 
day.

You can say what you like about newbies or "Aunt Edna", but anyone who 
can find one ISO for themselves can find two, and the argument about how 
the drivers/firmware wouldn't take up much space on the DVD goes both 
ways, since downloading a separate ISO for them is then not that big a 
deal in terms of bandwidth.

If you can't understand a reasonably verbose panel that says that "your 
computer's hardware requires our secondary network/drivers/firmware 
CD/DVD/ISO in order to activate networking", and says that you can find 
it in the same place you got this disk, be that a network repository or 
a friend who burned it for you, then you probably need to be reminded to 
breathe.  Such people are hardly about to be Mageia early-adopters, and 
we have some time to discuss how we want to deal with them.

Eventually, we may agree to offer a merged ISO.  Better still, since 
anyone falling into the category of needing that much hand-holding is 
unlikely to have bought a bare machine and is probably coming from 
Windows, maybe we ought to provide a Windows app that checks the 
hardware, downloads the needed ISOs to the Windows filesystem (on what 
we assume is a working network-enabled system) after suitable prompts to 
the user, and then enhance the install to look for them there.


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